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Old 02-11-2012, 06:50 PM
 
Location: The Other California
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According to a comprehensive new study published in January, divorce, it turns out, does great harm to children individually and society generally.

"The concluding section of the study commented that unlike the divorced parents, who can often find relief following separation, children's suffering continues long after divorce. In fact, its effects continue for decades, as long as three decades.

'Divorce has pervasive weakening effects on children and on all of the five major institutions of society -- the family, the church, the school, the marketplace, and government itself,' Fagan and Churchill concluded.

With the high level of divorce in recent times these debilitating consequences will continue to be played out in the years to come. Not a comforting thought as Western society continues to witness continued attacks on family life and attempts to re-define marriage."

It's long past time for a return to social, legal and political support for indissoluable Christian marriage.
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Old 02-11-2012, 06:54 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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According to a comprehensive new study published in January, divorce, it turns out, does great harm to children individually and society generally.

"The concluding section of the study commented that unlike the divorced parents, who can often find relief following separation, children's suffering continues long after divorce. In fact, its effects continue for decades, as long as three decades.

'Divorce has pervasive weakening effects on children and on all of the five major institutions of society -- the family, the church, the school, the marketplace, and government itself,' Fagan and Churchill concluded.

With the high level of divorce in recent times these debilitating consequences will continue to be played out in the years to come. Not a comforting thought as Western society continues to witness continued attacks on family life and attempts to re-define marriage."

It's long past time for a return to social, legal and political support for indissoluable Christian marriage.
I am with you but I will say that there will be a few that will take this one personal and do not be surprise you get labeled a few things. Take care.
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Old 02-11-2012, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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A "comprehensive study" of divorce funded and performed by a Christian, pro-marriage group. Hardly objective.

That's like McDonald's releasing a "definitive, comprehensive" study that hamburgers are good for you.

I'm Christian, and I'm married, but I don't like propaganda disguised as science.
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Old 02-11-2012, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Purgatory
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According to a comprehensive new study published in January, divorce, it turns out, does great harm to children individually and society generally.

"The concluding section of the study commented that unlike the divorced parents, who can often find relief following separation, children's suffering continues long after divorce. In fact, its effects continue for decades, as long as three decades.

'Divorce has pervasive weakening effects on children and on all of the five major institutions of society -- the family, the church, the school, the marketplace, and government itself,' Fagan and Churchill concluded.

With the high level of divorce in recent times these debilitating consequences will continue to be played out in the years to come. Not a comforting thought as Western society continues to witness continued attacks on family life and attempts to re-define marriage."

It's long past time for a return to social, legal and political support for indissoluable Christian marriage.
Why Christian marriage? What about all the other faiths and people who are agnostic or atheist?

I agree that the breakdown of the family unit has been a social disaster for many western societies. I just don't agree with throwing Christianity in there.

Also, children are equally as harmed by living in a situation where both parents are married, but the marriage is bad or even abusive.
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Old 02-12-2012, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Being a child of divorced parents and a soon-to-be-divorced parent myself--not by my choice--I agree that the effects of divorce are probably exactly what the study describes. However,

1. "Christian" marriage? WTF? Probably as much as a quarter of the U.S. population is not even nominally Christian, let alone devoutly Christian, and no law is going to convince them to be otherwise. It wouldn't work even apart from the obvious constitutional implications.

2. Changing the law to make marriage "indissoluble" would not change anyone's inner disposition. Compelling someone to stay in a marriage will not make anyone less self-centered, which is the source of the problem.

I do believe that divorce is too easy to get and there is not enough obloquy attached to seeking one, but it has to be there as a last-ditch measure for true cases of abuse.
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Old 02-12-2012, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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There are a lot of people that stay together to long, and end up in a violent household that hurts children.

There are also a lot of people that call it quits to soon because they feel the grass is greener on the other side, and then that turns out not to be true.

Children do best in a two parent household that is loving and caring. But when you are yelling, screaming, and hitting one another, not so much.

Context people, context.

Is there anything we can do to end this kind of problem? Nope, its existed since the beginning of human history, and in a free country, it isn't going to change anything.
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Old 02-12-2012, 07:36 AM
 
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According to a comprehensive new study published in January, divorce, it turns out, does great harm to children individually and society generally.

"The concluding section of the study commented that unlike the divorced parents, who can often find relief following separation, children's suffering continues long after divorce. In fact, its effects continue for decades, as long as three decades.

'Divorce has pervasive weakening effects on children and on all of the five major institutions of society -- the family, the church, the school, the marketplace, and government itself,' Fagan and Churchill concluded.

With the high level of divorce in recent times these debilitating consequences will continue to be played out in the years to come. Not a comforting thought as Western society continues to witness continued attacks on family life and attempts to re-define marriage."

It's long past time for a return to social, legal and political support for indissoluable Christian marriage.
I haven't read the 'study' yet, but most of the research I have read concludes that it's not so much divorce that is harmful, it's the ongoing high levels of conflict between the parents after separation that does the most damage.

It's far more damaging for a child to grow up in the same house with parents who stay together and who are abusive or very cold to each other.



Edited to add: This so-called study doesn't appear to be published in any peer-reviewed reputable Journal. The RRWNJ FRC also seems to be involved. Hmmm....

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Old 02-12-2012, 07:37 AM
 
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Most people get married for love, which is a mistake because love never lasts and is all too soon replaced with the drudgery of domestic life. Marital bliss becomes sacrificed to material obligation - mortgages, car payments and an endless series of bills - that takes all the joy out the relationship. Even the children end up being more burden than blessing. It all boils down to responsibility - financial responsibility - which is to say money, or the lack thereof - the debits and credits of a bankrupt estate.

Many marriages nowadays end in divorce. It is primarily because they are ill-fated from the start; like undercapitalized business ventures, they are bound to fail. How foolish people can be when they are in love. How stupidly they behave without a care for the consequences. Did they really think that they could live on love? How absurd. Where did their love go? How could two persons who loved one another so passionately end up hating each other? Is love and hate but two sides of the same emotion? And what is to be done with the detritus of a marriage foundered on the rocks? I don’t know. All I know is that the law is an inadequate remedy for people’s personal problems. Divorce is a losing proposition: the husband loses, the wife loses, and the children - the ones who ought to be entitled to two loving and responsible parents - they are the big losers. But how can you stop people from getting married, however improbable the proposal? You might as well try to stop the tide from coming in - it is an irresistible force. People ought to be required to prove their financial responsibility before the state issues them a license to marry; for surely, as the old saying goes: "When the money’s gone, love flies out the window."
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Old 02-12-2012, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Most people get married for love, which is a mistake because love never lasts and is all too soon replaced with the drudgery of domestic life. Marital bliss becomes sacrificed to material obligation - mortgages, car payments and an endless series of bills - that takes all the joy out the relationship. Even the children end up being more burden than blessing. It all boils down to responsibility - financial responsibility - which is to say money, or the lack thereof - the debits and credits of a bankrupt estate.

Many marriages nowadays end in divorce. It is primarily because they are ill-fated from the start; like undercapitalized business ventures, they are bound to fail. How foolish people can be when they are in love. How stupidly they behave without a care for the consequences. Did they really think that they could live on love? How absurd. Where did their love go? How could two persons who loved one another so passionately end up hating each other? Is love and hate but two sides of the same emotion? And what is to be done with the detritus of a marriage foundered on the rocks? I don’t know. All I know is that the law is an inadequate remedy for people’s personal problems. Divorce is a losing proposition: the husband loses, the wife loses, and the children - the ones who ought to be entitled to two loving and responsible parents - they are the big losers. But how can you stop people from getting married, however improbable the proposal? You might as well try to stop the tide from coming in - it is an irresistible force. People ought to be required to prove their financial responsibility before the state issues them a license to marry; for surely, as the old saying goes: "When the money’s gone, love flies out the window."
Its why I've said, time and time again, there should be a 5 year limit on all marriages. If you want to renew after 5 years, good for you. But if you married for love and that dies in two years, then you only have three more to wait before its over.
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Old 02-12-2012, 07:39 AM
 
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According to a comprehensive new study published in January, divorce, it turns out, does great harm to children individually and society generally.

"The concluding section of the study commented that unlike the divorced parents, who can often find relief following separation, children's suffering continues long after divorce. In fact, its effects continue for decades, as long as three decades.

'Divorce has pervasive weakening effects on children and on all of the five major institutions of society -- the family, the church, the school, the marketplace, and government itself,' Fagan and Churchill concluded.

With the high level of divorce in recent times these debilitating consequences will continue to be played out in the years to come. Not a comforting thought as Western society continues to witness continued attacks on family life and attempts to re-define marriage."

It's long past time for a return to social, legal and political support for indissoluable Christian marriage.
I dare you to survive living with my drunken, abusive sperm donor and then tell me how terrible it is to be the child of a divorced couple.
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