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Old 03-15-2012, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Every public school ID are specific govt issued ID's. University of IL in my case. I used my governtmnet issued ID many times a day in college and less than once a week now. The idea that college students understand why people don't have ID's is just flat out busted.

Seriously you can't tell me that the liberals in PETA, various environmental organizations and so forth are more open minded than some conservative bible thumper.
The only allowance that somestates are making for using a school ID to vote are public university IDs, and again, that's only some states. So not every school ID is an accepted ID, and they're definitely not gov't-issued IDs.

But by definition, PETA is open-minded b/c they give equal weight & validity to opposing view points. Bible-thumpers are the opposite in that they preach the superiority of their views by dismissing other views.

 
Old 03-15-2012, 01:19 PM
 
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I'm not judging, I'm just curious for an answer. I was reading this article in the LA Times this morning:

Poll: Primary battle has hurt GOP's image among young, non-whites - latimes.com

Maybe it correlates with religion. I'm guessing, but it seems those without college degrees are more likely to be evangelical, and thus identify with Republicans on social issues.
This is why.

Goodbye to All That: Reflections of a GOP Operative Who Left the Cult | Truthout

Undermining Americans' belief in their own institutions of self-government remains a prime GOP electoral strategy. But if this technique falls short of producing Karl Rove's dream of 30 years of unchallengeable one-party rule (as all such techniques always fall short of achieving the angry and embittered true believer's New Jerusalem), there are other even less savory techniques upon which to fall back

Among the GOP base, there is constant harping about somebody else, some "other," who is Subversives. deliberately, assiduously and with malice aforethought subverting the Good, the True and the Beautiful: Commies. Socialists. *******s. Secular humanists. Blacks. ****. Feminazis. The list may change with the political needs of the moment, but they always seem to need a scapegoat to hate and fear.
 
Old 03-15-2012, 01:22 PM
 
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i don't care what any poll says i have a college degree and i hate them all.

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Old 03-15-2012, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Just transplanted to FL from the N GA mountains
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It also must do some with age... I have a very very liberal left leaning son, who now, whenever he opens his mouth is starting to lean just a little more right all the time. College educated, but now four years later in the midst of graduate school where not only does he have to think for himself, but pay for himself, he's seeing that when it comes to politics neither is 100% right.
 
Old 03-15-2012, 01:34 PM
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Location: Wisconsin
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It is as I told my kids before they left for college. One of the most important things you will learn in college is how to learn. You will learn how to research, reason, and think rationally. Thank heavens they all learned those lessons well and none of them are Republicans. And, by the way, we are all Christians. Not all Christians subscribe to the school of hate, bigotry, and fear of learning.
 
Old 03-15-2012, 01:35 PM
 
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It also must do some with age... I have a very very liberal left leaning son, who now, whenever he opens his mouth is starting to lean just a little more right all the time. College educated, but now four years later in the midst of graduate school where not only does he have to think for himself, but pay for himself, he's seeing that when it comes to politics neither is 100% right.
I'm not nearly as left leaning as I was when I was just out of college, but I don't see myself ever swinging to the right far enough to think that the GOP is a more viable political option for me than the Democratic Party.
 
Old 03-15-2012, 01:53 PM
 
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I'm not nearly as left leaning as I was when I was just out of college, but I don't see myself ever swinging to the right far enough to think that the GOP is a more viable political option for me than the Democratic Party.
I can't say for sure about the boy... but my guess is he will start voting more due to financial issues than social ones. So I can see him become more like his father and I. Truly independents, neither voting straight party lines, but leaning a tad to the right especially fiscally.
 
Old 03-15-2012, 01:54 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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SAY WHAT? Your college ID is required for class registration, entering most school facilities, meal plans, computer centers and much much more.

While some of what you say is valid, overall I disagree. My niece attends college where she now only socializes with people that share her worldviews. If anything she is growning less open-minded because you can select a college, a program at the college and what classes to attend and completely isolate yourself from the variety of individuals you may have crossed paths with in your youth. I've met highly educated liberals and conservatives that are utterly closed minded because they hit age 18 and have isolated themselves to a comfortable environment ever since.
If they do that how can they graduate? Eventually you will have to take classes with people with different veiws and beliefs than yourself. rick "church lady" santorum went to Penn State and as a alumni myself I realize that you cannot truely isolate what you take from what you believe and still graduate with a marketable degree. Most of the beliefs that people have endeared for so long comes from their parents and people that are close to them. College exposes other beliefs and ideas but it rarely changes you, because you normally go back home to the same old things that you grew up believing
 
Old 03-15-2012, 01:54 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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I have a degree and don't favor dems at all.
 
Old 03-15-2012, 02:17 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Why do voters without college degrees favor Republicans and those with degrees favor Democrats?




And I suppose all of the minority blacks, Hispanics, and blue collar union workers that are a huge part of the Democratic party are College graduates? hmmmmmmmmm.

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