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You're the one living in fantasy if you don't face that reality..........
Nope, I live in the real world; you are the one letting their fantasies run rampant. I also know the UCMJ, something you obviously have no clue about. Oh, just so ya know, I consider those that support and encourage traitors as traitors themselves.
My late husband was a proud Marine. Do you think he WANTED to go to Viet Nam when Johnson sent him there? Don't you think he would have rather seen his wife and kids again and grown old in the country he served? But he obeyed because he had taken an oath to do so and he wouldn't have considered himself a Marine if he had disobeyed. He also would be the first one to put Marines that so dishonor their uniform and their country in the brig.
The relevant UCMJ articles are Art 88, 89, and 90.
Art 88 is contemptuous words towards officials. While this article applies to commissioned officers, it's also used when commissioned officers fail to deal with dissention in the ranks. Article 88—Contempt toward officials
This leads to Art 89: Disrespect towards a Superior officer. Officers by Art 88 need to immediately address dissention, and if a NCO disobeys then they are prosecuted under Art 89. Article 89—Disrespect toward a superior commissioned officer
If they deliberately disobey an order, that brings up Art 90: willfully disobeying superior commissioned officer. http://usmilitary.about.com/od/punit...es/a/mcm90.htm The punishment includes dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 5 years.
And yes, I am an officer in the U.S. military.
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"I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
I wonder which part of "oath" people are having trouble understanding?
Troops tend to gripe about whoever is commander in chief. They did 40 years ago when I was in, too. This looks to me like pole-vaulting over tick turds.
Troops tend to gripe about whoever is commander in chief. They did 40 years ago when I was in, too.
They undoubtedly did when Joshua ordered them to blow horns in front of Jericho's walls, too. Complaining that the high command is clueless started 30 seconds after the first man picked up a stone.
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Only military officers can disobey an "unlawful' order, enlisted service members must obey any order from an officer, and are not allowed to decide on their own not to. They can disobey an order, but they will probably lose when taken to court.
With this kind of thing happening, it kind of makes one wonder about the quality of the President. I wish I knew more. I'm blind and ignorant. Forgive me. *tissue*
Just read the comments at the bottom of that link if you want comedy. It's like the birther redneck allstars.
ROFL
I'm not going to bother visiting the link
I am expecting this to some sort of antiwar, pro Ron Paul thing.
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