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Old 03-27-2012, 11:37 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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And many don't consider abortion to be murder, including the US government... so you'd be the only one breaking the law, if you attempted to intervene in what a woman does with her womb & fetus.
This!

 
Old 03-27-2012, 11:40 PM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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Default Should babies be offered the opportunity to get abortion insurance?


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Old 03-27-2012, 11:43 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Maybe it should be illegal for men to masturbate because they're killing sperm that has the potential to become a child.
LOL... please no!! Can you imagine how cranky they'd get after a while? Yikes.
 
Old 03-27-2012, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Why would a baby need abortion insurance since it is already born? And in order to get the insurance, a parent would need to purchase it. If a parent is planning on aborting, why would they purchase it? And using the argument that a baby is a baby upon conception or whatever, who would get the money? The parent? Well then...

Thread makes no sense.
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Sometimes babies survive abortion.
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Originally Posted by gizmo980 View Post
What?? The fetus would have to be at LEAST 4-5 months developed to survive, in which case most states wouldn't even allow abortion... so that would be more of a stillbirth or "spontaneous abortion" (not by choice) situation, if it's even possible. Do you have a credible link regarding this claim?
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A woman can get an abortion for any reason throughout the third trimester if giving birth or continuing the pregnancy could be considered dangerous to her health (see Dr. Tiller).

"Women that have early terminations in weeks six, seven and eight, many times the pregnancy is so small that doctors miss removing the baby," Alvarez said. "The danger is that the failed attempt can damage the baby. That is why these patients who get early terminations need follow-ups."

Another scan a week later confirmed the baby also had [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]kidney [COLOR=blue !important]problems[/color][/color][/color], but doctors told the couple the baby was likely to survive, so they decided he deserved another chance at life.


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Originally Posted by gizmo980 View Post
So as I said, it would be a "not by choice" kind of situation - right?? No doctor or state will allow elective abortions that late, thus your argument really isn't on topic here. If the ONLY choice is to abort or let the mother die, I don't think even the hardcore anti-abortionists would have a major issue with that... and in these cases, I imagine the mother was actually happy the baby survived. Totally not related to a woman choosing early/legal abortion, and hoping the outcome is as advertised.

Not only did Dr. Tiller allow it, he specialized in it.

As for the danger to her health crap, I can get a prescription for medical marijuana because feel depressed. Doesn't mean I need it.

Did you even bother to read the story about the English boy?
 
Old 03-27-2012, 11:44 PM
 
Location: NC
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I am still agog to learn exactly who will actually purchase this insurance product. Any takers to answer this one?
 
Old 03-27-2012, 11:45 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Liberals giving rights.... are you trying to cause a system meltdown?
And what personal rights do the conservatives support? Oh yeah, guns...
 
Old 03-27-2012, 11:46 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Not only did Dr. Tiller allow it, he specialized in it.

As for the danger to her health crap, I can get a prescription for medical marijuana because feel depressed. Doesn't mean I need it.

Did you even bother to read the story about the English boy?
This is a whole different debate, and one which I am not qualified (nor care) to discuss further... that is all.

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Old 03-27-2012, 11:53 PM
 
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This is a whole different debate, and one which I am not qualified (nor care) to discuss further... that is all.

It's a whole different debate because I proved babies do survive abortion and insurance should be available to them to cover their special needs?
 
Old 03-27-2012, 11:58 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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It's a whole different debate because I proved babies do survive abortion and insurance should be available to them to cover their special needs?
No, the "whole different debate" I was referring to was the medical need for some abortions... and trust me, there ARE cases where a mother has no choice. As for insurance covering their special needs ONCE BORN, that would be the same as insurance for any child with a disability. So I'm not sure how that relates to the OP, although I'm not even sure how reality is related to the original question. This whole discussion is quite silly, in fact.
 
Old 03-28-2012, 12:01 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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FYI: Making abortion illegal wouldn't stop those situations you've cited... as even before Roe vs Wade, I'm pretty sure medically necessary pregnancy terminations were still allowed.
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