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Old 04-21-2012, 05:42 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Yep. Payroll taxes serve a specific purpose. Federal Income taxes do not. One SHOULD be able to expect a service for which they specifically paid. One SHOULD NOT expect a service for which they paid nothing. 47% get something for nothing. That's not "fair."
That thinking ignores what we are currently experiencing -- in a time of deficits, Republicans propose plans to cut Medicare and Social Security which are supported by specific taxes.

 
Old 04-21-2012, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Question: What is the political affiliation of the think tank Center on Budget and Policy Priorities?



Answer: The think tank Center on Budget and Policy Priorities has the following affiliation(s): Liberal

What is the political affiliation of the think tank Center on Budget and Policy Priorities?
"Liberal" is not a political affiliation. The CBPP is not affiliated with any political party. Liberalism is an ideological position.

However, if you are trying to dismiss the CBPP's work by merely declaring it the result of liberals, you will have to point to where they were actually in error in there findings. If you can't, then you must accept the findings as valid results. As Stephen Colbert once said, "reality has a well-known liberal bias."
 
Old 04-21-2012, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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47% of able-bodied adults are getting a free ride.
Do you know for a fact that all 47% is made up of only "able-bodied adults?"

No senior citizens, no disabled adults, no high school students working part-time?


If you have these data available, I sure would love to see them.
 
Old 04-21-2012, 10:30 AM
 
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"Liberal" is not a political affiliation. The CBPP is not affiliated with any political party. Liberalism is a....
...mental disease!!!!!
 
Old 04-21-2012, 10:31 AM
 
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Do you know for a fact that all 47% is made up of only "able-bodied adults?"

No senior citizens, no disabled adults, no high school students working part-time?


If you have these data available, I sure would love to see them.
The figure is 47% of "TAX FILERS". The number is from the IRS.
 
Old 04-21-2012, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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The figure is 47% of "TAX FILERS". The number is from the IRS.
So that includes everyone who files a tax return, meaning high school and college students, senior citizens, the disabled, and so forth.
 
Old 04-21-2012, 01:02 PM
 
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So that includes everyone who files a tax return, meaning high school and college students, senior citizens, the disabled, and so forth.
Yes, if they filed a tax return they are included.
 
Old 04-21-2012, 01:05 PM
 
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So that includes everyone who files a tax return, meaning high school and college students, senior citizens, the disabled, and so forth.
I've asked this question already, apparently the OP doesn't have any numbers to back up his assertion that the 47% are made up of "able bodied people getting a free ride".

Everyone else is required to substantiate their posts. I guess the OP is exempt.
 
Old 04-21-2012, 01:40 PM
 
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The figure is 47% of "TAX FILERS". The number is from the IRS.

23% have no tax liability after taking the standard deduction and personal exemption(s). How much is their fair share?
 
Old 04-29-2012, 10:44 AM
 
Location: On the Ohio River in Western, KY
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47% of Americans make $0/year?
No, but apparently 47% make less than the required minimum that the IRS imposes that you are required to file.

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If you have a job you have to pay federal income tax!

I know people that only make 18,000 per year; they still have to pay federal income tax!

People that are paid minimum wage must pay federal income tax!
Only if they are paid by pay check. I know quite a few people that are self employed, and they never file taxes.

As for those that DO get a check, if they file they WILL get their taxes back, so they aren't really paying taxes.


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So far, no one has put forth a logical attempt. All we've gotten so far is deflection and obfuscation. No one wants to admit that it's not logical to argue for the rich to "pay their fair share" when in fact 47% of American's aren't paying ANY federal income taxes.
Take that up with the IRS then. Seriously. Per this year's 1040 workbook: If you filing status is single then file a return if your groos income is over $9,500 (under 65) or $10,950 (over 65). OR married filing jointly $19,000(under 65), $20,150(one spouse over 65), $21,300(both over 65), OR married filing seperately $3,700 (any age), OR Head of household $12,200(under 65), $13,650(over 65), OR qualifying widow w/dependent child $15,300(under 65), $16,450 (over 65).

That's the IRS "rules" for filing requirements. Anything below those amounts, and you aren't required to file, but they reccommend that you do to get your taxes back if you have children.

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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
So....when does a renter make his check out to the local school district? Or is it perchance the landlord that does so? If so, why should other property owners, particularly the working poor or those on fixed incomes, be expected to subsidise wealthy business owners?
Around here, you pay more on your utility bills that home owners for the school taxesif you are a renter. Not much true, but a percent or two more. (ends up being no more than $4-5/month in school tax, unless you have a CRAZY high bill!)
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