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Old 04-23-2012, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Take it from a 6-decade resident of Los Angeles; the Democrats have been whining about Howard Jarvis and how Prop. 13's passage in 1978 has destroyed the state and our schools, but the Democrats remain the biggest culprit to preventing California's economy from thriving as it had previously.

When you have a tax code as progressive as ours, land restrictions galore which make housing super expensive compared to other states, and the top three entities with the most clout in Sacramento are environmentalists, trial lawyers and the civil service unions, it's no wonder that California's balanace sheet has been out of balance for decades.

When you spend more than you take in you have a deficit, and when you're as downright hostile to the development of new businesses as California is, you're bound to have a high unemployment rate.

Public schools here in California used to be terrific until the Democrats decided that keeping teachers employed became more important than having their competency challenged via annual testing, and every other 'blue state' in the nation is in the same boat fiscally speaking.

Look no farther than the explosion of new car plants throughout the Deep South, and even in Mexico, where AUDI is currently building their first new car plant in North America.

When the CEO of Carl's Jr. Restaurants, which also owns the Hardees chain, stated that the time frame for going through the permitting process tobuild a new restaurant in California is 6 months vs. 6 weeks in Texas, is it any wonder that they're building 300+ new restaurants throughout Texas as opposed to a mere handful in California, is it any wonder that California's economy is super-stagnant next to that of the Lone Star State?

And that's just for starters, and there's no end in sight until Democrats wake up and get a clue.
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Old 04-23-2012, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I put some credence in this. I see Apple expanding in Austin.
Would have never thought that Apple would expand outside of CA.
And this is development work, not customer service.
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Old 04-23-2012, 06:06 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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I put some credence in this. I see Apple expanding in Austin.
Would have never thought that Apple would expand outside of CA.
And this is development work, not customer service.

Well get used to it , because CA companies are naturally going to expand
outside of the state of CALIFORNIA because CALIFORNIA is of course tooooooo expensive to be done in state.

P.S. For those without a clue CALIFORNIA is like (Paris/London) EUROPE everybody wants to live there , but they can't because its toooo expensive!
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Old 04-23-2012, 06:30 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Yeah, I'm from there, and it's too expensive even for me to move back "home".

Marv, how do you know that some of that business red tape was set during Dem regimes?

When was this dream-time when CA public schools "used to be terrific"?? Public schools in some parts of the Bay Area, especially highschools, have always been terrible. (Berkeley High, Oakland Tech, and I've heard complaints about some of the San Fran schools).
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Old 04-23-2012, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Texas is most likely the best place for people that can't afford the high COL
here in CALIFORNIA to go and get a new start in life. I'm happy for them ,
and I'm not really anti-Texas at all , I just wonder why all of these Anti-CA
Texas People are coming right out of the woodwork and popping up everywhere
trying to celebrate the destruction of the great CA Paradise.
Pure political opportunism. The same reason a trembling chihuahua will chase a much bigger dog if it is running the other way.....

The rabid Texas conservatives who infest this forum to eager to fit every fact and anecdote into their tire model of how RUSH IS RIGHT!!!!

The facts are secondary...liberals latte sippers HAVE to be behind all our country's problems!!! The thing they don't seem to recall is California is full of liberals but also huckters, cheats, and good old entrepreneurial sleazeballs of the highest order. They've been there since the 49er days. California has always been about grabbing a quick buck and damn the consequences.
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Old 04-23-2012, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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The article '16 reasons To Leave California' in the second post on this thread is just as infuriating as Mr. Kotkin's article, and just as absolutely one-the-money as his is.

Indeed, many of the Silicon Valley titans such as Intel, HP, Google and all the rest are indeed expanding outside the state and have been doing so for years to places such as SLC, Boise, Denver, Nashville & other fine communities which epitomize what most of California's major cities used to be.

American Airlines's hilariously-titled-but-oh-so-accurate 'nerd flights' between San Jose & DFW have been packed with computer geeks & lots of other 'techies' for decades.

Granted, more students nationally apply to UCLA than to any other university in the USA, and that's been the case for something like 13 out of the past 15 years.

Governor Moonbeam is an avowed environmental fanatic as Kotkin points out; his dad essentially built I-5 from the southern edge of Bakersfield to the Bay Area.

OTOH, Brown is one of those 'Smart growth' or 'No Growth' disciples who despises suburbia, disregarding the fact that this is supposed to be a free country where citizens have the right to live where they want, drive the types of cars they want to drive, and where businesses are also supposed to have freedom to expand where thjey want to without interference from Sacramento, Albany, DC or any other governing body.

It's those same environmentalists who are responsible for the preposterous difference between gasoline prices here in LA ($4.03), Tucson ($3.60--my best friend who grew up in OC moved there in 2010), & Albuquerque, where my brother lives ($3.49).

I've come to designate the Democratic Party as the Free Lunch Party, but good luck getting anybody at ABC, CBS, NBC or MSNBC to call them that.

They should be so lucky that no-nonsense journalists such as the much-missed Tim Russert are sadly no longer with us.

Placing the survivability of a 3-inch fish should not take priority over human beings; that's unconscionable.
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Old 04-23-2012, 08:07 PM
 
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Familiar story, liberals making a once productive and livable state, unproductive and unlivable, especially for the middle class.

The Weekend Interview with Joel Kotkin: The Great California Exodus - WSJ.com
This is the future of America.
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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If it is, we're toast; thank goodness that most of the rest of the country has seen what overregulation, nosebleed-inducing tax rates, pension-spiking, uncontrolled environmental fanaticism, and a deliberate 'dumbing down' of our education system leaves in its wake.

If the Democrats here and nationwide were EXTREMELY serious about education reform, they'd MANDATE that all HS teachers MUST have an advanced degree in science and/or math in order to be able to teach those courses, since it's no secret that 99.999999% of the best-paying jobs of the future will be in those fields, as well as related discplines such as computer engineering.
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:30 PM
 
Location: DFW
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California cycle through times of plenty and times of recession or even depressions , and as alway will come out of this current struggle with its
makeup on looking just fine.....
How long has it been since CA saw a budget surplus ? Not sure even in good times they'll see one again any time soon.
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Old 04-24-2012, 01:57 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Yeah, I'm from there, and it's too expensive even for me to move back "home".

Marv, how do you know that some of that business red tape was set during Dem regimes?

When was this dream-time when CA public schools "used to be terrific"?? Public schools in some parts of the Bay Area, especially highschools, have always been terrible. (Berkeley High, Oakland Tech, and I've heard complaints about some of the San Fran schools).
California had one of the best school systems in the entire USA until the 1970s. The damage began with the introduction of busing in the '70s but got much,much worse with Prop 13.

Both parties are guilty of inflicting damage and overregulation upon the state.
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