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Read the very first post. Christians get tatoos, women wear pants, eat shellfish, don't (typically) stone unruly children, etc, etc..The contradictions are born out in their actions. Why cherrypick the gay marriage (which is never mentioned in any bible) issue and ignore so many of the other "laws" in the bible.
The laws you mention were given to Israel, and the Bible clearly states that Jesus' death did away with these laws. If you are a Christian, you know this very important distinction.
BTW, the opposition with gay marriage is because it is directly connected to acts of homosexuality, which the Bible condemns. There are many laws/principles that are also NOT ignored (murder, stealing, bestiality). Are you okay with keeping those on the books?
Leviticus 18:22 (NIV)
22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.
Leviticus 19:28 (NIV)
28 “‘Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the Lord.
Now, where are the contradictory Scriptures that some suggest are out there?
THe contradictions are exhibited by christians. Christians readily adorn themselves with tatoos but line up to vote against gay marriage (which is NOT mentioned in the above passage). Maybe contradiciton is the wrong word. How about hypocrits?
If you don't want people to talk about your "spiritual dilemma"... then stop incessantly talking about how it poses one for you.
Actually, I posted it once and then responded to folks who couldn't understand why it was a dilemma for me. If you stopped being so defensive and intolerant, you'd be able to recognize and understand the difference.
so you are so stupid, that you BASE YOUR assumption on a POTUS election
the FACT is NC is solidly democrat, on the state level
and please..the 04 election bush won by less than 450k vote in nc
and in 00 also less than 450k votes
in 96 less than 150k votes
but what has the NC government (governor and legistaure been for most of the last 150 years.....DEMOCRAT
heck even 'blue' cali went red for bush sr in 88....heck in 84, 49 states were all red
dont let facts hit you in the butt, on your way out
Your premise is that NC has been liberal for 150 years.
Tell me, since you are so nuanced in NC politics, what characteristics of North Carolina at a state level make it a socially "liberal state" the way we think of somewhere like CA, etc.?
DEMOCRAT is not synonymous with LIBERAL. Fred Phelps is a "Democrat"... he is not a "liberal."
If you're too dang stupid to understand the difference, may I suggest extracting yourself from the conversation.
I'm glad this foolish supersticious nonsense is no longer common knowledge amongst children. It's being relagated to mythology where it belongs. I posted words from YOUR BIBLE that you have no answer for so you attack me. Like I said YOUR interpretations are YOUR interpretations. That's why believing things not based on logic and evidence is an absolute waste of time.
It's ironic that you practice the very intolerance you condemn. Hypocrisy won't win you many converts. All it does is offend those who are Christians who are standing with you.
And Christian laws are not relevant to non-Christians. They certainly shouldn't be relevant to secular laws and governance.
Bullhockey. God's law is what it is. Why does "God's law" on shellfish consumption ONLY apply to Jews? Really? That's your excuse? He has different laws for different people, depending on their religion?
Gay marriage does not ENCOURAGE anything, other than for people to live as free people. Your version of "Jesus' truth" is another man's fairy tale. And if you think that's harsh, too bad. I'm sure you give little weight to the desires of Muslims or Hindus as to what constitutes "moral behavior."
Just as I would reject any Islamic fundy's campaign to rid America of bikinis and demand women get permission from their husband before getting a job, I say to you, living YOUR version of what is moral.... to keep your religion to yourself!!
Easy as pie.
When then I suggest you move to a country where your rights as a citizen aren't endowed by your Creator (capital "C")...
There are plenty to choose from.
Do you really want to try and understand the "shellfish" question (and the like)? I'm guessing no, but if you do, I'll make it easy.
Click on podcast to hour #1, go to the 8:55 mark and start listening. The relavant discussion start right there:
Actually, I posted it once and then responded to folks who couldn't understand why it was a dilemma for me. If you stopped being so defensive and intolerant, you'd be able to recognize and understand the difference.
The only one getting defensive is you. We are the ones asking you about the spiritual dilemma, and trying to show you that you can reconcile same. Nothing in my posts was disrespectful.
The laws you mention were given to Israel, and the Bible clearly states that Jesus' death did away with these laws. If you are a Christian, you know this very important distinction.
BTW, the opposition with gay marriage is because it is directly connected to acts of homosexuality, which the Bible condemns. There are many laws/principles that are also NOT ignored (murder, stealing, bestiality). Are you okay with keeping those on the books?
On what books? We live in a secular society of secular laws. I didn't need an old book to tell me not to kill people. The bible is irrelevant as it pertains to how our secular society operates. If you want to worship the invisible god of an old book, be my guest.
And the bible doesn't "clearly" say a damn thing. I posted the passages from Matthew that directly contradict that. Did jesus later contradict himself or are these just your interpretations?
I hate to spell it out... sorta loses charm but...
Isn't it funny when a (supposed) follower tattooes a verse because it was in the scriptures.
So, when is the vote on tattoes?
I agree, but those laws were given to the Israelites. Most Christians believe in the OT, but follow the NT.
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