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Old 06-12-2012, 02:38 PM
 
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Good Grief! Polio oral Vaccine is in the news and it's bad, very bad.


In 2011, there were an extra 47,500 new cases of non-polio acute


Sadly, watch the supporters of the shots get to work to try and negate the truth about this subject, and how we that rejected immunizations for our children are, and will be proven full of wisdom for many years, to come.

 
Old 10-05-2012, 04:42 PM
 
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Have you ever actually even read the transcripts? They do not support any allegations of bias, but instead demonstrate the CDC advocating for the conclusions established by research.
Like these conclusions?.....Courthouse News Service
 
Old 10-05-2012, 04:48 PM
 
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The supporters of the ever-increasing, insane schedule of shots always resort to ad hominem, not only of we laypersons that aren't brainwashed or led by anything but our own inuition and wisdom. They also lamely and in sophmoric fashion have to call Professional after professional "nuts" and other things because...

drumroll apropos...

at those numerous times they cannot "gainsay the messages" before them.

You got it, let the attacks begin because they fail to objectively see themselves and that it's all they've got when they can't force their agenda on others.

We're not the ones arguing in favor of contagious diseases. You anti-vaxxers are. Please stop telling us we need vaccine preventable diseases because science is too difficult for you to understand.

Thank you.

"Others" of which we number in the many millions and ever-growing. Their agenda is threatened and they know it. We're having the healthy and beautiful babies. WE KNOW that every time there's a breakout of one of their dieseas that a good number, if not a shocking number of the "victims" of said illness are immunized.

Stand your ground, and God bless you for it.

It's call "Freedom." They are not more pro-choice than we are, in fact they are often less PRO CHOICE. They give us the righ to kill our babies in the womb, but not the right to refuse shots....if they can help it.

You can refuse shots all you like. But you can't refuse them and expect people to leave you alone to spread vaccine preventable diseases. FYI, most vaccine preventable diseases occur in vaccinated people because most people are vaccinated.

That still doesn't refute the fact that most unvaccinated are far more vulnerable to serious vaccine preventable diseases than their unvaccinated counterparts.
How does a disease occur in a vaccinated person if the vaccine works? ...you are wrong, it's the VACCINATED who are the most vulnerable to disease...it's strange that a vaccinated person would fear one who's not...maybe they fear seeing the glowing health......Vaccinated children have up to 500% more disease than unvaccinated children
 
Old 10-05-2012, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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How does a disease occur in a vaccinated person if the vaccine works? ...you are wrong, it's the VACCINATED who are the most vulnerable to disease...it's strange that a vaccinated person would fear one who's not...maybe they fear seeing the glowing health......Vaccinated children have up to 500% more disease than unvaccinated children
That is pure, unadulterated bull****! If you post a link that "proves" that, I can promise it can be torn apart b/c it's "how to lie with statistics".
 
Old 10-05-2012, 04:58 PM
 
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be informed and don't let them force you into anything. Do not trust anyone. Read everything you can and make up your own mind.

Well-Baby Checkups = Excuse to Vaccinate

The main reason for all those “well-baby” checkups during the first year or year and a half of your child’s life can be summed up in one word: vaccines. I think your typical parent is intelligent enough to notice if her baby isn’t eating enough or gaining weight or is sick (pulling at ears, throwing up, coughing, feverish). In other words, she knows when her baby needs to go to the doctor. Sure, a nurse or pediatrician will weigh and measure your child at a well-baby checkup, give him a once-over, and ask you a few questions. But you can bet those syringes are ready when you walk in the door.
If you vaccinate according to the recommended schedule, your child will receive 49 doses of vaccines by the time he is 6 years old. 49 doses. You can choose not to vaccinate—there are exemptions for children of school age. If your doctor discharges you from the practice for not vaccinating, there are doctors who will see your child. See my previous article, “You Can Say No to Vaccines … But Your Child May End Up with No Pediatrician.”
Worth reading again..all true!!!good post
 
Old 10-05-2012, 05:04 PM
 
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By the way, for those that still cling to the belief that the fine Doctor Wakefield was wrong, don't you think it's about time you let that lie go?......Wakefield...you know...get your head out of the sand?
 
Old 10-05-2012, 05:20 PM
 
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Well I've been refuted! Your next round of Brain Repair Formula is on me!



The anti-vax movement can't argue factually so they argue from you tube and silly websites.
These parents aren't what you sooo much love to call the anti-vax movement, they DID trust the cdc...big mistake, their children are paying with their lives....do you think they've made this all up?...and why would they?...do you think these parents are wrong?.......Testimonials by Parents/DPT - AutismPedia
 
Old 10-05-2012, 08:31 PM
 
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How indeed. Kids die from preventable diseases because their parents are afraid of having them vaccinated.
They also die because their parents DID vaccinate them......More than 2,000 vaccinated babies died: The cost of doing business.
 
Old 10-05-2012, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Like these conclusions?.....Courthouse News Service

I do not see any conclusions, just accusations.

From your link:


" 'Merck has presented information that demonstrated to the United States Department of Justice that these allegations are factually false, and after the Department conducted its own two-year investigation, it decided not to pursue this lawsuit,' Rogers said."

I do believe the DOJ would have been happy to pursue it if there were any support for the allegations.

For the record, testing the blood from people who received the vaccine against the virus used to make it just shows that the vaccine does what it is designed to do. No one claims the vaccine is 95% effective against the wild virus. It is more like 80% after one dose and 90% after two.

The 2009 mumps outbreak occurred when a child brought it home fro the UK, where immunization rates dropped in response to the Wakefield debacle.

An outbreak in the US in 2005 was traced to a man who was also from the UK. He had not been vaccinated.
 
Old 10-05-2012, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Elgin, Illinois
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The reason this belongs in politics is because it suggests bias on the part of CDC. Studies like this need to be independent of politics, so we are armed with the truth and can protect children from the real dangers.
Before the usual pro-govt defenders comment, please read the article attached prior to impeaching it.

Learn more: Vaccine bombshell: Baby monkeys given standard doses of popular vaccines develop autism symptoms
If vaccines truly caused autism wouldn't we have seen a great rise in it during the 1950s-1970s when they had campaigns to end Polio (which is almost eradicated) and Smallpox (which has been eradicated)? I feel more inclined to the theory some scientists have proposed on environmental toxins being responsible for the rise in autism. Not to long ago we learned that a lot of meat is primarily made up of pink slime, some foods are genetically modified, others are pumped with hormones and who knows what other chemicals.
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