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Old 06-03-2012, 08:04 PM
 
Location: TX
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I do not care if gay people shop at any stores in which I shop. However, I DO CARE when a company chooses to make a political statement when their job should be selling clothes. When a business embraces a controversial subject, they will alienate a good deal of clients. That is simply a bad business practice. When one is trying to appeal to 10% of the population, perhaps someone in marketing should be fired.
Oh, give it up. You're perfectly fine buying from Domino's, knowing they've been so involved in politics when (according to your train of thought) their job should be selling pizza. So let's get real: You are opposed to JC Penney's specific course of action; it has nothing to do with this made-up standard of absolutely 0 value that a business should never concern itself with "political issues".

I'll repeat, since you did not reply:

"What drives the advocation of equality and tolerance of those who are hurting absolutely no one should always mix with business."

You may have the business obligation to make more money, but you've the moral obligation to promote equality and tolerance of homosexuality. Why? Because it doesn't hurt a single person for people to be gay.
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Old 06-03-2012, 09:03 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Quite the over reaction.

I do not care if gay people shop at any stores in which I shop. However, I DO CARE when a company chooses to make a political statement when their job should be selling clothes. When a business embraces a controversial subject, they will alienate a good deal of clients. That is simply a bad business practice. When one is trying to appeal to 10% of the population, perhaps someone in marketing should be fired.
Can I ask again how they're being political?? They simply decided to represent a variety of families in their ads, and there is nothing political in the ad itself... hiring Ellen was also not a political move, as far as I can tell, since she's a well-known entertainment figure who's represented many products previously. I'm sorry if you think the mere PRESENCE of gay people in their campaigns is "political," but that's your problem - not theirs. Am I being political when I take a photo with a gay friend and share it on Facebook?

Regardless, there is no law (or even societal expectation) for large corporations to stay out of politics altogether. I'm sure just about every corporation has some kind of political ties, donations, causes, or leanings - and it would be both silly and probably unconstitutional to demand otherwise.
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Old 06-03-2012, 09:24 PM
 
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I did not know Dominos supported right wing causes.
Ironically, I worked for them a long time ago.

But yes, the founder of Domino's is very religious and conservative. He's even started planning his own religious city in Florida called "Ave Maria".

Ave Maria, Florida - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Their pizza, which used to be crap, is now very good.
I'm sure the company appreciates your noticing that. Even they acknowledged that their pizza was horrible.

Dominos Admits Pizza Was 'the Worst'; Bets the Company on Ads Vowing Change - CBS News
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Old 06-03-2012, 09:26 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Ironically, I worked for them a long time ago.

But yes, the founder of Domino's is very religious and conservative. He's even started planning his own religious city in Florida called "Ave Maria".

Ave Maria, Florida - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



I'm sure the company appreciates your noticing that. Even they acknowledged that their pizza was horrible.

Dominos Admits Pizza Was 'the Worst'; Bets the Company on Ads Vowing Change - CBS News
I used to work for them too, LOL... delivered pizzas for them (and two other pizza places) while I was in college. And yes, their pizza was terrible! I only liked the pies I personally made, as I added a few extras to make it better - and the only reason I even ate my own creations was because they were free.

P.S. Hawkeye's response proves our point, that some people only care if a company "gets political" when it's related to something they oppose. Why weren't they researching Domino's before ordering from them, if this was such a concern? And now that you know, hawkeye, will you boycott them too?
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Old 06-03-2012, 09:29 PM
 
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I used to work for them too, LOL... delivered pizzas for them (and two other pizza places) while I was in college. And yes, their pizza was terrible!
I'm actually not picky when it comes to food, so if it weren't for their conservative religious advocacy, I'd probably still eat their pizza.
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Old 06-03-2012, 09:35 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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I don't drive a car - my carbon footprint is small - how about yours?
Again, good for you. Wish I could ditch the car too, but there is literally no other way for me to get to work... unless you suggest walking 40+ miles each way every day! There isn't even a train option, since I go the opposite direction (and at completely different hours) of the commuter CalTrain between where I work & live. I'm also jealous that you can even ride a bike, since my bum knee hasn't let me do that for over a decade.

But unless you built that bike yourself, with all hand-crafted products and tools, some company somewhere had to produce it for you. Try as hard as you might, nobody in modern society can live without giving SOME money to corporations - not even the Amish, although they come as close as possible.
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Old 06-03-2012, 09:40 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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I'm actually not picky when it comes to food, so if it weren't for their conservative religious advocacy, I'd probably still eat their pizza.
I prefer Round Table, but only when they have good coupons available... as I refuse to pay $20+ for a plain cheese pizza!! Not sure what their political affiliations are, if any, but it probably wouldn't matter to me anyway. Despite my participation on this forum, I've never really cared about politics one way or another - which is why I identify as an Independent, but maybe I should call myself an Apathist instead. Hey, I made up a new word!
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Old 06-03-2012, 09:40 PM
 
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Well ,....no shopping at Penneys for me...
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Old 06-03-2012, 09:42 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Oh, but when it actually comes to contributing money (donations), I do pay some attention to political activity... i.e. I'm happy to be a member of Curves and give them my membership fees, but you'll never catch me making charitable donations to them.
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Old 06-03-2012, 09:43 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Well ,....no shopping at Penneys for me...
I'm sure they will miss you greatly... LOL.

So, are you another one who only hates JCP but still patronizes the other gay-friendly corporations? What kind of computer and Internet service do you use, and have you ever used Google?
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