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Old 06-27-2012, 02:11 PM
 
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I had no idea that you could buy cigarette's with your welfare card. Amazing that the government is telling us that soda is bad for us but you can buy smokes with your welfare card?

Whiton said a young man came in to the store to buy two packs or cigarettes on May 29. When she asked him for his ID, he handed her his EBT card.

EBT cards are used for both food and cash assistance programs. There are two types of cards: one can only be used for food. The other can be spent on anything and used just like a debit card.


I found this funny and likely cuts to the core of the issue.

The next day Whiton said the customer’s foster mother came to the store to complain. Whiton received a call later that day from the company’s home office in Maine, telling her it had received a complaint about her and reprimanded her.

So he ran home and got his mommy?

Clerk loses job over stand - SentinelSource.com: Local News: electronic benefit transfer, ebt, debit card, cigarette, jackie whiton

Bottom line.

“I made the statement, ‘do you think myself, that lady and that gentlemen should pay for your cigarettes?’ and he responded ‘yes,’ ” Whiton said.

Amazing, simply amazing.
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Murika
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Well, a city government trying to tell people that soda is bad and being able to purchase cigarettes with an EBT card are really two completely unrelated issues. For starters, government also tells us more than clearly that smoking is bad, and secondly, you can use your EBT card to purchase soda.

The problem is simply that the funds on an EBT card are freely available. These funds are not tied to specific items, otherwise one could legislate that the funds can not be used to purchase, say, potato chips. Since such item-bound funds are rather impossible to issue, government must rely on retailers. Alas, even then enforcement is impossible and hence, rather pointless. There is always somebody who is willing to work around the system.

If you want that EBT funds only go to healthy food, you need to tie the funds to dedicated food banks that give out nothing but food or other items deemed essential.
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:18 PM
 
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There seems to be a donation site already set up for her:
Give Jackie Whiton A Reward for Declining EBT Card to Buy Cigarettes! -- Indiegogo
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:23 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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wow. i didn't know that either.
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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EBT is a safety net to some and a way of life to others.

If you have zero ambition then this is the perfect life.
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Arkansas
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Can you do that in every state? That's crazy.
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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There seems to be a donation site already set up for her:
Give Jackie Whiton A Reward for Declining EBT Card to Buy Cigarettes! -- Indiegogo
Only an idiot will donate money to somebody so dumb..
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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If you want that EBT funds only go to healthy food, you need to tie the funds to dedicated food banks that give out nothing but food or other items deemed essential.
Agreed--and far better than making taxpayers pay for other people's drug habits.
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Well, a city government trying to tell people that soda is bad and being able to purchase cigarettes with an EBT card are really two completely unrelated issues. For starters, government also tells us more than clearly that smoking is bad, and secondly, you can use your EBT card to purchase soda.

The problem is simply that the funds on an EBT card are freely available. These funds are not tied to specific items, otherwise one could legislate that the funds can not be used to purchase, say, potato chips. Since such item-bound funds are rather impossible to issue, government must rely on retailers. Alas, even then enforcement is impossible and hence, rather pointless. There is always somebody who is willing to work around the system.

If you want that EBT funds only go to healthy food, you need to tie the funds to dedicated food banks that give out nothing but food or other items deemed essential.
Yup..go back to what used to work.
If they are hungry then give them food, not money.
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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If you want that EBT funds only go to healthy food, you need to tie the funds to dedicated food banks that give out nothing but food or other items deemed essential.
And that would be a good start to eliminating food stamp fraud and misuse.
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