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Sorry, but that's no longer true, under Obamacare.
Under Obamacare, if you have some illness or injury BEFORE you sign up, the insurance company MUST take you as a client and MUST pay for that previously-existing condition.
You didn't know this?
Seriously?
Point that part out won't you? So everyone is on the same page...
No what will happen is you will be in a tax deficit and they have the right to attach your wages just like a normal person who doesn't pay their taxes.. You WILL pay one way or another.. but you will pay.
Don't make me laugh. This "penalty" you must pay the government, does't even apply to people who don't make enough to pay income taxes. Says so right in the law, as Justice Roberts pointed out. They are completely exempt from it... which makes my scenario of dropping your insurance and only signing up when you get sick, even more fiscally attractive for them.
And yet all you reps are going to vote for the guy who first proposed Obamacare: Mitt Romney. A few of you might even continue to explain why you're going to move to Canada to avoid socialized medicine.
No what will happen is you will be in a tax deficit and they have the right to attach your wages just like a normal person who doesn't pay their taxes.. You WILL pay one way or another.. but you will pay.
No they don't. They can ONLY take the penalty out of any refunds you have. They are limited to that and that only.
So you don't get insurance and don't pay the penalty and make sure you don't get a tax refund.
They cannot touch you otherwise.
No they don't. They can ONLY take the penalty out of any refunds you have. They are limited to that and that only.
So you don't get insurance and don't pay the penalty and make sure you don't get a tax refund. They cannot touch you otherwise.
Until they change their own law... which will probably happen about next week.
I'm charmed by the naive innocence of people in this forum who think the liberals are going to keep their word and/or be nice to their subjects. It's so cute....!
Sorry, but that's no longer true, under Obamacare.
Under Obamacare, if you have some illness or injury BEFORE you sign up, the insurance company MUST take you as a client and MUST pay for that previously-existing condition.
You didn't know this?
Seriously?
I didn't say that, and you don't seem to be sharp enough to understand the difference. I said you have to pay for the medical expenses you've incurred before enrollment. If you decide to skip out on insurance when you can afford to buy it, and you get in a car accident, you'll be responsible for the emergency care. You can pick up the insurance after you're injured, and the insurance company will have to accept you and cover your preexisting condition, but they're only responsible for your medical expenses AFTER you're enrolled. You will personally have to pay for the treatment you received before your accident and before you went on the insurance plan--the emergency care, the hospitalization, the surgery, etc. I'm guessing you'd have coverage about the time you're ready for physical therapy.
When your neighbor is struggling with the family budget, trying to figure out how much of what kind of foods to cut to pay for Billy's tuition next year or Sally's dress and shoes, it's now clear what she must do if she wants to minimize expenditures in other areas.
The penalty (sorry, it is now a "tax") for not signing up for Obamacare will be much lower than the premiums she'll have to pay if she does sign up. And Obamacare requires that, if she waits until someone is actually sick or injured before signing up, the insurance company must take the sick person despite what is now a "pre-existing condition".
So, what the struggling housewife should do, is clear: She should drop all health insurance. And simply pay the lower amount, the "tax" for not signing up.
Then, if and when somebody in her household gets sick, she should sign up then. The insurance company must take her and pay for the treatments for the sickness. She will pay their (higher) premiums until the sick person is cured. And then she can drop the insurance coverage, and go back to paying the "lower) "tax" instead.
Repeat as necessary.
Anybody see any holes in this idea? She can definitely feed her family better this way, than by remaining permanently signed up for insurance.
Why do any of us need to be signed up for insurance any more, before we actually need medical treatment?
You're assuming that employers will continue to offer health insurance. In fact many have already figured out that it will be more cost-effective to drop health coverage for their employees and pay a penalty for doing so. So the promise that Obama made that if you like your insurance you'll be able to keep it under Obama care is an empty promise. You'll be able to keep it only if your employer continues to offer it. When this shoe drops be prapared for the howls of anger and disbelief. And that's only the beginning of the unintended consequences of this law.
Is it possible that Obots haven't been able to figure this out?
Wake up people. The game is to shut down all insurance companies and have socialized medicine which is based on Medicare. That wonderfully well run program----NOT.
Don't make me laugh. This "penalty" you must pay the government, does't even apply to people who don't make enough to pay income taxes. Says so right in the law, as Justice Roberts pointed out. They are completely exempt from it... which makes my scenario of dropping your insurance and only signing up when you get sick, even more fiscally attractive for them.
Please reference to the calculator in my post on page 1.. The point is not for those who make a life sucking the life blood out of the system..
Family making 45K, 3 people, No Health Care pays a penalty of $1,738.00..
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