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We allow it because a woman should have a right to keep her biological child.
And our laws allow for that woman to abort the fetus, wait out the pregnancy to give it up for adoption or to keep it.
So what?
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It is what occurs in nature, and mothers have a natural instinct to look after their young.
You think that nature is all hunky dory? NEws for you, nature is much more cruel to their young, than humans are.
Many species of apes will self abort if they feel that the fetus they are carrying, there is something wrong (they will eat the leaves of specific plants that will lead them to abort)
Many mothers also will trample, and kill their young if they are deformed, or weak. The best one can hope is that hte mother will abandon the young, and that young will have to "hope" that another mother comes along to take care of it (adopt)
So what occurs in nature is that anything that is different, will be killed or abandoned, unless another animal comes to adopt.
Oh damn, even in nature, different animals will take on the young of those who abandoned them.
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One of the problems is the having of two mothers or fathers at the same time.
Happens all the time. When parents divorce and remarry. A child can have two fathers or two mothers because their divorced parents went off to marry other people. My step-brother ended up with 4 fathers because his mother remarried 3 times after my father and she divorced.
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again you are relegating a natural act to the realms of finance - this is wrong.
And one doesn't need to produce offspring in order to marry.
Marriage is a legal contract between consenting adults. The "offspring" is just a benefit.
Various types of same-sex unions have existed, ranging from informal, unsanctioned relationships to highly ritualized unions. A same-sex union was known in Ancient Greece and Rome, in some regions of China, such as Fujian province, and at certain times in ancient European history. These gay unions continued until Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire.
Yeah yeah civil unions in Rome although not a single law, and most of of Roman law survived to our times, pertaining to such. And then union in Fujian province, place so relevant to our civilization it is breathtaking.
Few thousand years of well documented history of Western civilization and this is the best you can do to illustrate the point that were gay marriage or union were never part of our tradition or culture.
How about the fact that none of the big religions, Christianity, Islam, Hindu or Judaism condones gay marriage, gay unions or homosexuality at all? How come this tradition is so persistent and so universal?
Were you not paying attention? Interracial marriage? Polygamy? Age of consent? The laws on these things were changed, changing your so-called-traditional marriage.
So after seeing this it would be logical to change marriage to allow same sex marriage and allow them to adopt children.
And where is the drastic change? How does ban on interracial marriage, localized to America or changes in legal age of marriage constitute groundbreaking changes to the tradition of marriage? For more than 3000 years it has always be an union of man and a women.
Marriage is a legal contract between consenting adults. The "offspring" is just a benefit.
No. Marriage is a contract between a man and a women. You do not have to be an adult to marry, in fact most jurisdictions around the world allow minors to marry as well. The offspring is not just a benefit, many people marry to have kids: it is much easier to raise children in a family.
Here are some examples of "traditional" marriage from Western civilization.
Germanic warlord with many wives, occasionally crazy noble forcing a priest to marry him and his beloved horse... Yes, sure. That happened. We are talking about three thousand years of history.
Nevertheless, socio-economical context has been changing yet the basic concept / tradition of marriage in Western civilization stayed the same: a union of a man and a women.
That's our Western world tradition.
Germanic warlord with many wives, occasionally crazy noble forcing a priest to marry him and his beloved horse... Yes, sure. That happened. We are talking about three thousand years of history.
Nevertheless, socio-economical context has been changing yet the basic concept / tradition of marriage in Western civilization stayed the same: a union of a man and a women.
Or a man and a female child, or a man and a woman of the same race, or a man and the property he bought from a father. Or a man and a woman, and a woman, and a woman. Or in the case of Native Americans two people of the same sex.
You keep changing the time period, the location, the general parameters, and yet when YOU post your "facts" not once have you backed up your assertions with anything except your "belief".
I'm finished playing this game with you. If you refuse to look at clear evidence, you can remain ignorant of history for all I care.
Or a man and a female child, or a man and a woman of the same race, or a man and the property he bought from a father. Or a man and a woman, and a woman, and a woman. Or in the case of Native Americans two people of the same sex.
You keep changing the time period, the location, the general parameters, and yet when YOU post your "facts" not once have you backed up your assertions with anything except your "belief".
I'm finished playing this game with you. If you refuse to look at clear evidence, you can remain ignorant of history for all I care.
Hardly... American Indians are hardly part of Western civilization which we are apart of, and you never proved that marriages between people of same sex were a part of that tradition.
If you want to provide clear evidence then quote a Roman law specifically instituting same sex marriages or even unions or even mentioning two men or two women in reference to marriage. Quote some written accounts of same-sex marriages or unions in ancient Rome.
Show some written accounts of same-sex marriage being a part of Christian civilization i.e. the past two thousand years of history in the Western World.
You gays really want to rationalize your affliction and quest for same-sex marriage but can't ever provide any EVIDENCE of same sex marriage being a part of tradition of the Western Civilization.
Same sex marriages are not a part of any tradition in the world as all four major religion of the world Christianity, Islam, Hinduism and Judaism do not approve of homosexuality not to mention approval for same-sex unions and marriages. Where is that same-sex tradition then????
We allow it because a woman should have a right to keep her biological child.
It is what occurs in nature, and mothers have a natural instinct to look after their young.
One of the problems is the having of two mothers or fathers at the same time.
What if the mother dies in childbirth? Should a father get to keep his child without a mother? Why is is a problem to have two mothers or two fathers? If you think about it, a married couple with kids that divorces and both remarry, technically you now have two mothers and two fathers. But, I think we all know where you will go next, you will claim that homosexual behavior is abusive for a child to watch, yet you will provide no evidence for this claim.
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again you are relegating a natural act to the realms of finance - this is wrong.
No, I am not. Look at what it required by law to adopt a child or even raise your own. One of the main things they look at is financial stability, then they look at emotional support. Did you know most of the time they only look for signs of an abusive household once someone reports it. If nobody reports it, they don't look for it.
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