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LOL. Now we are getting the FOX spin thrown in, and no one knows what was really said anymore ....
Let's compare what they really said:
Romney: You Olympians, however, know you didn't get here solely on your own power, For most of you, lovingparents, sisters or brothers, encouraged your hopes, coaches guided, communities built venues in order to organize competitions.
Obama: If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges.
They are practically identical, and both making the same exact point.
Um...but they both got government help, right? So, how did either the olympic athlete or the businessman make it entirely on their own?
Not an effing bit of help was directed at businessmen when the government built roads for all of us or built and failed to maintain bridges, either. Supporting what The Won said makes you look pretty simple, but then you say lots of socialistic things that do that.
My husband and I are small business owners. We're a long way from rich--more in that really comfortable middle class bracket--and we pay a lot more in taxes each year than most families make. That said, the taxes we pay for the businesses and on our personal income couldn't come close to covering the local fire department, police department, roads, bridges, schools etc. that we rely on to make our businesses viable. The tax payers ARE the government, but we join together to do the work and we DONT do it alone. That was the point that Romney made, and that was the point that Obama made. If we're thanking the government, we're thanking each other.
The unbelievably stupid part is that Romney would run an attack ad on Obama for saying it, and then say the exact same thing in less than a week. He's an idiot.
You are completely wrong in that Romney said those words ink the winter of 2002 at the opening of a Winter Olympic Games. Do you see what happens when you left leaners twist words to your meaning? Surely you will see it someday.
One of them was talking about government being responsible for the successes of businesses because they paid for roads and bridges while the other merely said that those young people made it because others had supported them.
Hey, have you seen Krauthammer talking about the Romans building roads, bridges and canals over 2000 years ago? Was the Roman government before the Empire as socialistic as Obama is pushing us to be? I think that maybe you need to look at things a bit outside the lefty rose colored glasses.
Clearly you don't have a clue what either one of them said.
Just FYI. Obama didn't build it, nor did he take credit for it. It's called the "Eisenhower interstate system", and Eisenhower was a Republican, and apparently a great evil communist according to you.
Yes, infrastructure is quite important, and everyone benefits from it, including businesses, and someone has to build it and fund it, but somehow it is all evil to you.
And where do those tax dollars go? Oh, yeah, to the government!
Taxpayers didn't one day suddenly decide, "Hey, let's all get together next Saturday and build an Olympic venue!" The taxes they paid enabled the government to then take that taxpayer money and build those venues. So that really, the government built those venues, using taxpayer money.
Stop me if I'm going too fast for you here...
You sped right past yourself when you tried to make the US government responsible for building those facilities. Surely you know that although governments build those things but they are local governments not the US government. Hell, most of those roads and bridges Obama referred to were built by what will become regional parts of his government if we manage to let him stay around. I would hope you understand that much of the money used to build those venues is from donations by locals. Also, so much of the money used to train those people comes from donations to the US Olympic Committee which is not a part of the US or any other government. I am trying to tell you and others here that much of the money spent on Olympic athletes comes from donors who are not paying taxes when they donate.
Are you saying Romney's views have 'evolved' in the past few years? You think he would no longer agree that parents, teachers and community play any role in people's success?
Parents, teachers and communities do play a part in the development of those athletes but I don't know what part those people played in the success of many businesses. As sol said you people are losing and just won't give up. You know that there is a severe difference in what the two men said but allow some NBC partisan to swing you along with his false comparison.
Sure sounded like Romney threw the government in the mix.
Hw didn't really do that when he said community. He was talking a whole lot lower than national government when he said community. How big is the village that Obama and Hillary believe in?
Obama said what he meant as he always does. Then his minions run around trying to smooth it over.
my success had nothing to do with Obama, and no offense, nothing to do with you or anyone else. No one but me put money in my savings. No one but me planned my retirement. In fact I can say that I am successful inspite of Obama, inspite of GWB and in spite of any and all party hard liners. Any services I used I also paid for.
Your fire department? Your taxes pay your share.. How many tomes have you used it? How much does it cost to run those trucks in local parades?
Everything you mentioned if you pay taxes you paid your share and that means that there is no debt.
Those who owe a debt are those who dont pay. Are those who live off our fat.
Career politicians like Big Bill Clinton owe. Any career politician who got rich from holding office owes.
No I dont owe. I worked hard for everything I have. I paid all my permits when I built my house. Pay my taxes regardless of how fair or unfair they might be.
If you want to feel a false debt feel free to do so. Me? I will never bow my head and say thank you when no debt is owed.
Keep trying but I don't think that many socialists will accept what you are saying. They don't want individuals to be responsible for their successes.
You sped right past yourself when you tried to make the US government responsible for building those facilities. Surely you know that although governments build those things but they are local governments not the US government. Hell, most of those roads and bridges Obama referred to were built by what will become regional parts of his government if we manage to let him stay around. I would hope you understand that much of the money used to build those venues is from donations by locals. Also, so much of the money used to train those people comes from donations to the US Olympic Committee which is not a part of the US or any other government. I am trying to tell you and others here that much of the money spent on Olympic athletes comes from donors who are not paying taxes when they donate.
WOW you are way out in Right field on this one. Most of the monies to train Oly. ath. comes from the non-profits (USA track,USA swimming,US Soccer,to name a few). They recieve local funding from local govts as well as local ath. who pay fees to ath. trainers who are approved by those non-profits.
Govt both state and fed. wind up putting in more then there share as it would hurt the local econ. if the venues were not able to be used.
How did you learn how to read and write? How did you get to work, or to your business?
Did the federal government pay for all those roads you want to talk about or just a tiny amount while the states, that will become regional offices for the feds if Obama is re-elected. How many kids were educated in schools not paid for by the federal government? They paid next to nothing for my education since I went to schools that were paid for by local school districts. As bad as you of the left side will see it you do know that No Child Left Behind is going by the wayside as states find that they can handle it without federal strings attached to money.
Did the Romans have any success because they built roads where ever they conquered? Why did they build those roads? I think for the same reason that Hitler built the autobahn so he could move his armies around Germany. He built those roads to take care of heavy tanks and for no other reason. I guess you are trying to say that our whole Interstate system was built for the same reason. Nope Eisenhower was for peace not war.
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