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Old 07-28-2012, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Why SHOULDN'T assault rifles be barred from the hands of civilians? It's pretty simple to me...

Our Constitution was drafted to protect civilians from a tyrannical or brute force government. Sure, at the time of it's conception, the only guns the regular people had access to were single shot muskets and the likes. That was all the government had access to as well.

There was much more parity between civilians and council/military, obviously.

So, even the logic of banning assault rifles from civilians..while initially seems sane and rather benign...in the long run can have dire consequences because all it does is lengthen the reach of a state that already has an authoritative stranglehold on society.
Should'a stuck with just the "simple".
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Old 07-28-2012, 09:33 AM
 
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Why can't it sink through the minds of the pro gun lobby that the USA has many, many times the nurder rate of EVERY other advanced nation.
Why can't it sink through your head that we ain't Norway, and we will never be Norway.

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The arguement the braindead idiots use that, "It's bad people that kill, not guns is just so stupid it defies comment.
Ditto.
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Old 07-28-2012, 09:35 AM
 
Location: playing in the colorful Colorado dirt
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As a shotgun owner I see no logical reason for you to own either handguns or rifles. As you said you prefer a 12 ga. double so why do you need rifles or handguns. You could miss with that rifle and kill someone 2 miles away. The next door neighor kid could come in and steal a handgun. With those dangers you don't need it.
I live on a ranch, out in the middle of nowhere in Colorado.

When i'm out in the fields, I prefer to carry a ,38 as we have a lot of rattlesnakes.

When i'm out in the woods, a 30.06 as we have mountain lions, coyotes and the occasional bear.

For home defense, providing they get past my very protective dogs, a 12 is pretty convincing. Never had to fire it except for practice.

As for my neighbor, he's a grown man with his own arsenal.
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Old 07-28-2012, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Fort Myers Fl
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I have several shotguns and a couple hunting rifles that are by far more deadly then my AR-15 or the AK 47. I use my AR 15 for target practice and that is it. I keep it locked in my gun safe and I have a shotgun and a pistol for home protection.

"It's bad people that kill, not guns is just so stupid it defies comment".

I have owned guns since I was very young and I have not killed anyone or never had to pull a gun on someone. But then I do keep my guns locked up so they can't get out and kill someone. Very hard to trust a gun just sitting there.

For anti-gun people, something to think about. Now just for chance say our government runs out of other peoples money, I know it will never happen but just in case. What will all these people who rely on the government to survive do? No more EBT, welfare check, food stamps. Maybe they will knock on your door and see if you have some extra food they can feed there starving family with.

Good Luck anti-gun people but NO I will not help you. I must help my own family.
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Old 07-28-2012, 09:48 AM
 
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Semantics...You can assault somebody with a mossberg pump, technically.

I'm talking about AK-47's, Saws, M4's, M-16's, AR15's...
Semantics? Give me a break.

You can "assault" someone with your fists. Let's ban fists.

Please, tell us the differences among the list you cited, and WHY you want to ban them.

Or are you basing your opinion on looks because they "look" evil?
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Old 07-28-2012, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Fort Myers Fl
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I live on a ranch, out in the middle of nowhere in Colorado.

When i'm out in the fields, I prefer to carry a ,38 as we have a lot of rattlesnakes.

When i'm out in the woods, a 30.06 as we have mountain lions, coyotes and the occasional bear.

For home defense, providing they get past my very protective dogs, a 12 is pretty convincing. Never had to fire it except for practice.

As for my neighbor, he's a grown man with his own arsenal.
So it seems when you need real fire power you would not even think of using an assault rifle correct?

I have a Remington model 750 (which is a hunting rifle for you non gun people) that would out power any dirt bag with his "assault rifle". But the MSM says "Assault Rifles are bad" so the sheep believe them.
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Old 07-28-2012, 09:58 AM
 
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Semantics? Give me a break.

You can "assault" someone with your fists. Let's ban fists.

Please, tell us the differences among the list you cited, and WHY you want to ban them.

Or are you basing your opinion on looks because they "look" evil?
I don't want to ban them.........
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Old 07-28-2012, 10:09 AM
 
Location: playing in the colorful Colorado dirt
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So it seems when you need real fire power you would not even think of using an assault rifle correct?

I have a Remington model 750 (which is a hunting rifle for you non gun people) that would out power any dirt bag with his "assault rifle". But the MSM says "Assault Rifles are bad" so the sheep believe them.
I just see no practical everyday use for them.

They're designed to take out as many "targets" as possible in a very short time. You don't even need to be a marksman (or woman) to use one, just point in the general direction of what you want to hit and "fan".. Where's the sport in that?

If someone wants to own one, fine.
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Old 07-28-2012, 10:11 AM
 
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There is no logical reason to own Assault weapons and they were created with the intent to kill. I can understand there use in a combat situation but I think our "forefathers" would be shocked how the "Second Amendment" has been abused!

Sure there is. They are fun to shoot. I am going out in a few minutes to shoot a couple of Lewis Machine Tools AR-15s I just picked up to add to the arsenal. They have the new "Defendar-15" stocks which legally converts them to full auto (ATF approved). I think I have about 15 ar-15s and ten ar-10s, in addition to 15 m1 carbines, ten m1-garands, several german mausers and G 43s, M1-As, 03 Springfields, 30-30 lever actions, .45-70 lever actions as well as several shotguns and about twenty five handguns. This, of course, does not include the .22 rifles and pellet guns, which we do not count as actual guns.

Why do I have this number? Because I sold quite a few about three years ago.

If you shot these weapons , you would have a good time. We are mostly target shooters and only hunt hogs in Texas. Most of the people at our range are cops, national guard, or active duty military guys. They can many times give you a few good pointers and are interesting people to chat with. Shooting is a social event and a good hobby which is far less dangerous than horseback riding, mountain climbing, or probably even bike riding. Given that these activities are more dangerous, one should consider, if interested in public safety, banning horses, bikes and preventing people from mountain climbing. Cheerleading, of course, is the most dangerous "sport" and should be banned as well.
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Old 07-28-2012, 10:14 AM
 
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Calling them assault rifles is false propaganda to sway the unknowing.

They don't even meet the definition of an assault rifle. An assault rifle if fully automatic, these are not.
The guns they want to put restrictions on only look like assault rifles and are semi-automatic. We are also require to have weapons (rifles) of the type currently in use by the military by Law actually but other Laws already restrict that with Tax Stamps that you must be approved several times on different levels to complete the process.

It's all ridiculus and frankly offensive..

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