For what valid reason would a US citizen not have an ID? (death, Missouri)

[Oldhag1]

In another thread a poster wrote the following:

Over 2 dozen states have added new ID laws under the guise of eliminating voter fraud. The real result of these laws is the disenfranchisement of up to 5 million African American voters who do not have the required ID.

To do many necessary functions, such as driving and getting medical care, you have to have an ID in this country. I really want to know for what VALID reason a US citizen wouldn't have an ID.

I know someone is going to cite cost so I'll go ahead and supply that because I don't see where any of them are prohibitive.

Cost of basic government ID by state (not driver's license):
Alabama – $23
Alaska – Under 60 is $15, over 60 is free
Arizona – $12. Over 65 is free
Arkansas – $10
California – $23. Free for those over 62. $7 for low income folks
Colorado – $10.50. Free for those over 60
Connecticut – $15
Delaware -$5
Florida – $3 whole friggin’ dollars!!!!!!
Georgia -$20 for 5 years, $35 for $10 years
Hawaii – $15 for under 65, $10 for over 65
Idaho – $7.50. Renewals can even be done by mail
Illinois – $20, free for seniors over 65 with no renewal necessary
Indiana – $13 under 65, $10 for over 65, last for 6 years
Iowa – $5
Kansas – $18 under 65, $14 over 65
Kentucky – $12
Louisiana – Average $21, free for over 60
Maine – $5
Maryland – $15, free for those over 65
Massachusetts – $15
Michigan – $10, free for seniors and those with mental impairments
Minnesota – $15.50, $10.75 for those 65 and up
Mississippi – $13
Missouri – $11
Montana – $8
Nebraska – $23.75 (lots of different fees for those under 21)
Nevada – $11.25. For 65 and up, new is $6.25, renewal is $2.25
New Hampshire – haven’t been able to find the cost
New Jersey – $24
New Mexico – $5 for 5 years, $8 for 10 years
New York – Depending on length, $9 to $14. 62 and up, $6.50
North Carolina – $10
North Dakota – $8
Ohio – $8.50
Oklahoma – $10
Oregon – $29 for 8 years
Pennsylvania – $10,
Rhode Island – $15, free for 59 and up
South Carolina – $5
South Dakota – $8
Tennessee – $12.50. For those 65 and up, they never expire
Texas – $15. 60 and up, $5 and never has to be renewed
Utah – $18. Never expires for those 65 and up
Vermont – $15, $10 if you get Social Security Income
Virginia – $10
Washington – $20
West Virginia – can’t find an actual figure
Wisconsin – $28 for eight years
Wyoming – $10, never expires
Washington, D.C. – $20.

Most last between 4 and 5 years.

[MJJersey]

For a minute I thought I was getting ripped off and then I got to Oregon.

[Ceece]

Laziness is the only reason I can think of.

[padcrasher]

Not that you care. No reason would suffice.

But for those who do care why many poor Americans don't have ID's

http://brennan.3cdn.net/f5f28dd844a1..._i36m6lyhy.pdf

[HistorianDude]

There is no such thing as an "invalid reason" to not have one.

[janelle144]

I had to show my ID this time when I went to vote. It took about 5 seconds extra then I went to stand in the long line that took half an hour. It's no big deal.

[padcrasher]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

There is no such thing as an "invalid reason" to not have one.

Exactly.

It's part of right wing hardwiring.

They are mentally incapable of putting themselves in the shoes of another person not like themselves.

This thread wasn't started to understand why people don't have ID's but to mock them.

This right wing push to increase voter ID requirement is simply a means reduce Democratic votes.

[padcrasher]

Originally Posted by janelle144

I had to show my ID this time when I went to vote. It took about 5 seconds extra then I went to stand in the long line that took half an hour. It's no big deal.

You walked 10 miles to the place?

Then you took the trouble to pay for the ID, that you don't normally need, because you pay only in cash. with your income that's under the poverty level, while someone watched your kids?

Good for you.

[janelle144]

Originally Posted by padcrasher

Not that you care. No reason would suffice.

But for those who do care why many poor Americans don't have ID's

http://brennan.3cdn.net/f5f28dd844a1..._i36m6lyhy.pdf

I am sure they can cut this bureaucratic crap. Looks like a program to keep government people working.

I volunteer at a place that serves food to poor people. Most have cell phones. If the government can get poor people hooked up on cell phones they can get an ID for them.

[Oldhag1]

Originally Posted by padcrasher

Not that you care. No reason would suffice.

But for those who do care why many poor Americans don't have ID's

http://brennan.3cdn.net/f5f28dd844a1..._i36m6lyhy.pdf

I've read it.

Here is my thing. You have to have all the things required to get an ID to get social security or get a social security card to get a job. Unless you are on death's door the hospital doesn't have to treat you without ID. You definately can't cash a check or get a bank account. The better answer is seeing to it that people have access to getting IDs. Organizations that want to register people to vote could always have drives to take people to get IDs.