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Old 08-20-2012, 01:51 AM
 
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Your friends are either exaggerating, or they're uninformed. Our system of government isn't perfect, of course, but there's still less corruption here than in most countries around the world.
Which is odd considering comparatively speaking it's ridiculously cheap to bribe officials here. In Russia it'll cost you several million to outright buy just an oblast-level minor administrator. Here, a few hundred thousand will get you a senator. I think it's because our politicians don't understand that as whores setting the going market rates is their responsibility.
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Old 08-20-2012, 01:56 AM
 
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Trimac20, you could have stopped at professing your ignorance about American politics without having to prove it by slandering America, Republicans, and the US military.
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Old 08-20-2012, 03:02 AM
 
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I'm proud of both sides of the aisle in this thread.
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Old 08-20-2012, 03:08 AM
 
Location: Texas
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What will happen if Romney actually does get elected?

I'm more worried about what will happen if Obama wins. Without the prospect of voting him out of office, the uber-right wing zealots who eat, live and breathe hatred and fear of Obama will be left with no other option than to get rid of him.

I'm afraid the relentless campaign of conspiracy theories and lies designed to delegitimize the President of the United States which has been waged for the past 4 years will find it's ultimate fruition if he wins a second term.
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Old 08-20-2012, 03:16 AM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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There are plenty of regular Americans who are willing to overthrow the government if necessary, but the problem is we are so divided on political philosophies we could never agree on what path to take if we lost our Constitutional rights. For example, there are Americans willing to go to civil war over the First Amendment but not the Second Amendment, and vice-versa. You have militia-men and anarchists and everything in between who would be fighting for control, and it would get ugly. But man, if the Occupy crowd and the Tea Party crowd ever found common ground together, they'd be a force to be reckoned with.

I think any revolution in a country like ours would need to take place through change of consciousness, not armed warfare (which likely would not succeed anyway), but our history and people are too violent for that.
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Old 08-20-2012, 03:32 AM
 
Location: South Dakota
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There are plenty of regular Americans who are willing to overthrow the government if necessary, but the problem is we are so divided on political philosophies we could never agree on what path to take if we lost our Constitutional rights. For example, there are Americans willing to go to civil war over the First Amendment but not the Second Amendment, and vice-versa. You have militia-men and anarchists and everything in between who would be fighting for control, and it would get ugly. But man, if the Occupy crowd and the Tea Party crowd ever found common ground together, they'd be a force to be reckoned with.

I think any revolution in a country like ours would need to take place through change of consciousness, not armed warfare (which likely would not succeed anyway), but our history and people are too violent for that.
How are you gonna fight a war without The Militia (all the guns in private hands)???
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Old 08-20-2012, 03:34 AM
 
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Just what WILL it take for Americans with a conscience to rise up and literally kick them out of the Oval Office, Congress.etc?
What it will take has already happened in spades. Stay tuned for the November voter revolution.
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Old 08-20-2012, 03:35 AM
 
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How are you gonna fight a war without The Militia (all the guns in private hands)???
Votes. Vote them all out.
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Old 08-20-2012, 03:35 AM
 
Location: Texas
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There are plenty of regular Americans who are willing to overthrow the government if necessary, but the problem is we are so divided on political philosophies we could never agree on what path to take if we lost our Constitutional rights. For example, there are Americans willing to go to civil war over the First Amendment but not the Second Amendment, and vice-versa. You have militia-men and anarchists and everything in between who would be fighting for control, and it would get ugly. But man, if the Occupy crowd and the Tea Party crowd ever found common ground together, they'd be a force to be reckoned with.

I think any revolution in a country like ours would need to take place through change of consciousness, not armed warfare (which likely would not succeed anyway), but our history and people are too violent for that.

The problem with our budding revolutionaries is that they can all tell you what they're against, but have trouble telling you what they're for. They can list the things about government they don't like, but don't have a clue about what they'd replace it with.
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Old 08-20-2012, 03:39 AM
 
Location: South Dakota
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Votes. Vote them all out.
I agree I thought I heard Revolution/War
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