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Old 08-21-2012, 11:49 AM
 
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And that means no abortions for any reason at all.
Why are Romney/Ryan such wimps when it comes to abortion, they say they are against it but do not say they would push the US Supreme court to over turn the right of women to have abortions.
Women would have abortions out of the USA, easy answer, check all women, girls, of child bearing age before allowing them out of the country.

It would upset women voters, so what comes first stopping abortion completely or having more women voting for the GOP ?

Do you believe that to be a human being in that womb?
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Old 08-21-2012, 11:52 AM
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No, no. If abortion is illegal in a particular state, the state will not have a legal right to search or retain women who want to have an abortion in another state. It just means that abortions will not be able to be legally performed in that state.
What would be the point of a single state ban if it did nothing to prevent women from getting abortions elsewhere? A ban on only abortion procedures performed inside the state would only impact the women that couldn't travel due to cost or other circumstances.

Do pro-lifers want to prevent abortions or just score political points?
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:00 PM
 
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YES !

Once government sanctions the murder of one innocent human being, it's a slippery slope from there.

Under God's Law, the punishment for murder is death.


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Then I assume you'll gladly hand over an ever-increasing amount of your tax dollars to pay for SNAP and WIC and other entitlement programs.

I assume you're willing to sit bedside with your empathetic trap shut and listen to rape victims being forced to carry unwanted pregnancies to full term.

I can assume that you'll actively promote and rightfully acknowledge the "Under God's Law, the punishment for murder is death." dictum also applies to the Military Industrial Complex and the war hawks that perpetrate countless wars and killings and deaths.

Yeah, I thought not.
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:04 PM
 
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Abortion should be legislated by the individual states (not the federal government) if it is not going to be defined as murder (the calculated premeditated termination of a human life), IMO. YMMV

IIRC, the only Constitutionally conferred power the federal government has over life and death sentencing in regard to US citizens is in cases of treason, is that not correct?

(Of course we have to ignore the application of NDAA and wars to this specifically as abortion is neither.)
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:06 PM
 
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Should be a double homocide if you murder a woman and her fetus dies too?
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:09 PM
 
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Should be a double homocide if you murder a woman and her fetus dies too?
As murder is defined currently in this country, yes, IMO. Again, it has not been applied thusly by all states so if murder is to be defined and legislated that takes it back to the individual states does it not?
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:09 PM
 
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I can assume that you'll actively promote and rightfully acknowledge the "Under God's Law, the punishment for murder is death." dictum also applies to the Military Industrial Complex and the war hawks that perpetrate countless wars and killings and deaths.

If you had ever actually read the Bible that contains God's Law,
then you would know that God also gave laws concerning how to
conduct just warfare.



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Old 08-21-2012, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Government, be it state of federal, has no business taking away a woman's right to choose.
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:29 PM
 
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I have a friend right now going through a situation. Girl he's dating became pregnant after the condom broke and she is anti-abortion. The kicker is, they aren't even a couple nor will they raise the child together. She has a small child from another man with whom she's no with and this will be her second child from a different man and neither will be there in the household to help her raise these children. I cant for the life of me see how this can be a good thing for either child.
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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If you had ever actually read the Bible that contains God's Law,
then you would know that God also gave laws concerning how to
conduct just warfare.



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Not everyone believes in your god or any god.....and in this country you do not have the right to force your religious beliefs on others.....too bad for you.
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