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I ask this question cuz it appears ,today,the only ones who admitted they were protesting back in the 60's add--" but I supported the troops back then"
What happened to the vast majority of the Vietnam war protestors who sure as heck showed no support for the troops?
I think many are still around but may have had second thoughts about how they treated our returning soldiers. many were college kids when they did it so many should still be here. I remember after Desert Storm we had a welcome home parade and when we passed any Vietnam vets we asked them to fall in with our unit to march since they never got that welcome that they deserved and alot of the people cheering us did apologize to them. I would hope that when asked they would own up to what they did but then explain if they still felt that way or not.
I was an anti-war protester in the Korean War and Vietnam War and in Grenada and in Desert Storm and in Iraq/Afg and I still am. And I do not support the troops. The people who went did not have to go, they could have refused to go, but that would have required courage, to stand up and refuse, and face the consequences of doing so, and expose themselves to the direct point-blank fire of the real enemy, the military/industrial complex. The brave refused, the cowardly killed who they were told to kill, burning children alive with napalm if so ordered.
The necessary courage to stand up and say No, however, is an extreme measure of bravery, and I do not hold it against anyone for being unable to muster the courage to do so. In that sense, I support the troops, including my brother in law who is now totally disabled and living in poverty, after spending a few years fighting the Vietnamese and a few decades fighting the VA trying to squeeze the most fundamental of the promised benefits out of the batsards.
What is it about human beings, that docile farm boys from Iowa and Schleswig-Holstein can be so readily taught, in just a few weeks of brainwashing, to burn innocent children alive? I think it is because they are brought up, from early childhood, to place obedience to authority above human decency.
I ask this question cuz it appears ,today,the only ones who admitted they were protesting back in the 60's add--" but I supported the troops back then"
What happened to the vast majority of the Vietnam war protestors who sure as heck showed no support for the troops?
Have they died off?
Selective memory?
Or are they ashamed to admit their behavior ?
I'll go with selective memory, the most dedicated are protesting Obama's Islamic Socialism and fighting to keep the government out of their Medicare
I was one, but like as said, in protest of the Fedral Govt, not my 54,000 brothers.
I am no more than a long hair country hick at 58 years now, but in these years, if there is one thing I came to know about man, it is the first man came out of the trees, and hit another man. The 2nd man struck back with a rock.
Ever since, man has only improved the stick and the rock.
Things are not any better. My generation sold out their pricipals, cut their hair, and became neo-cons. Many of them have raised the most helpless greed and gain children, the planet has even known.
That doesn't really matter, since we are as a whole world still in the act of improving the stick and the stone. It is the nature of man.
I am always amused at the claims of "courage and extreme bravery" of those who have never served their country in combat. It must have been really tough back home dodging the bullets and shrapnel of the military/industrial complex. I suspect my fallen comrades, who now rest in honor for having served their nation's flag under fire, would likewise be amused at having missed the opportunity to see the heroic performances on the home front. Our "cowardly" conduct must surely pale beside that of the home front warriors. I will certainly discuss this with them on my next annual vist to the Wall.
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I was an anti-war protester in the Korean War and Vietnam War and in Grenada and in Desert Storm and in Iraq/Afg and I still am. And I do not support the troops. The people who went did not have to go, they could have refused to go, but that would have required courage, to stand up and refuse, and face the consequences of doing so, and expose themselves to the direct point-blank fire of the real enemy, the military/industrial complex. The brave refused, the cowardly killed who they were told to kill, burning children alive with napalm if so ordered.
The necessary courage to stand up and say No, however, is an extreme measure of bravery, and I do not hold it against anyone for being unable to muster the courage to do so. In that sense, I support the troops, including my brother in law who is now totally disabled and living in poverty, after spending a few years fighting the Vietnamese and a few decades fighting the VA trying to squeeze the most fundamental of the promised benefits out of the batsards.
What is it about human beings, that docile farm boys from Iowa and Schleswig-Holstein can be so readily taught, in just a few weeks of brainwashing, to burn innocent children alive? I think it is because they are brought up, from early childhood, to place obedience to authority above human decency.
Wow, how naive of you some 45 years later to think that all drafted 18 year old males had the means to stand up to their country and not serve. All I'll say is, don't make assumptions about people unless you were in their situation. You point out a few bad apples from hundreds of thousands of troops.
The fact is, many soldiers live with great pain and guilt for what they saw and did. But you know what human instinct tells us to preserve ourselves and if that means shooting someone before they shoot me, then so be it.
I was recently shocked to hear my father, a Navy vet ('68-'75) who flew in Vietnam, say that any US military member today who signs-up and fights in Iraq is nothing short of a heartless mercenary who deserves not support, but rather scorn.
Last edited by denverkid; 02-14-2010 at 11:32 AM..
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