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Now you are just cherry picking useless information to back up your UN boogy man conspiracy theories. Just stop embarrasing yourself.
In light of what 15 nations under protest I don't think this is considered "useless information".
It's very germaine to this very thread topic.
You are pretty adamant that this will NEVER pass.
I wouldn't have ever thought that this would even be "demanded" of the UN from an ME country nevermind passed.
The Grand Imam (I guess he's like the Pope of the Sunnis ??) asked the UN to criminalize any attacks on the Muslem religion. He wants an international resolution that will ban any attack on a Moslem symbol and make it a criminal offense.
The UN must do this to preserve "world peace".
Anti-Islam Video Protests Live Blog - Al Jazeera Blogs
Egypt's top Muslim cleric on Saturday called for an international ban on all forms of attacks against Islam, after a provocative film sparked violent protests in the Middle East and North Africa.
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The resolution should "criminalise attacks on Islamic symbols and on those of other religions, after the violence against those who provoked challenges to world peace and international security," said Tayyeb.
The imam said it was the UN's responsibility to "protect world peace from any threat or aggression", so that "these dangerous events cannot recur".
27th amendment to the constitution if liberals had their way.
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So have I. Around twenty or so years ago. I'm sure things have changed there just like in the US from then.
If nothing else, just the speed which news of protests, mob attacks, etc. can travel country to country via the internet/social media must surely have some influence.
Is this Grand Imam going to call for the UN to be torched when they tell him to stuff it?
And, if this wild request were to be fulfilled, then they damn well better have the same rules for all religions. If Islam is suddenly off limits, then those same muslims should have to submit to rules that forbid them from doing the same to other religions. Let's see how they like it. I say this as an atheist. Muslims want special treatment for their fairytale. Sorry, no cookie for you, muslims.
christianity is pretty disgusting... but islam takes the cake...
the Grand Imam needs to go f himself... free speech is a protected right.. even if that means someone telling you your religion is crap and your prophet is a joke.
This is the Supreme Court's take on treaties that violate the Constitution:
The Court found that "no agreement with a foreign nation can confer power on the Congress, or on any other branch of Government, which is free from the restraints of the Constitution."
As I said twenty years ago I would agree it would never pass. In today's America I really don't know. As for being passed by the UN it would probably pass easily.
China and Russia would not pass it and would veto it also sin ce Chia is a Agnostic Atheist and follow anciet Chinese mythology traditions and Russia is 70% Orthodox Christians so only one country has to Veto it so it would have alot of trouble passing in the U.N. security Council.
the Communist Party of China came to power in 1949, it was regarded as an atheist faction which viewed traditional religions as backwards, and Western religions the tool of Western colonialism, and has steadfastly maintained separation of church from state affairs in order to prevent recurrence of situations like the Taiping Rebellion. After the "opening up" of the 1980s, more religious freedoms were granted and traditional beliefs like Taoism and Buddhism were supported as an integral part of the Chinese culture. Muslims are 1–2% However, the biggest part of the population, ranging between 60% and 70%, is mostly agnostic or atheist.
Also the Russian Orthodox Church is second only to the Roman Catholic Church in terms of numbers of followers. Within Russia the results of a 2007 VCIOM poll indicated that about 75% of the population considered themselves Orthodox Christians.
Wikipedia is the source so look it up and see.
Since 2005 the United Statesthink-tankFund for Peace and the magazine Foreign Policy, publishes an annual index called the Failed States Index. The list only assesses sovereign states (determined by membership in the United Nations.)
Several territories are excluded until their political status and UN membership is ratified in international law. For example, Taiwan, the Palestinian Territories, Northern Cyprus, Kosovo, and Western Sahara are not included in the list, even though some are recognized as sovereign states by some nations. Ranking is based on the total scores of the 12 indicators (see below.) For each indicator, the ratings are placed on a scale of 0 to 10, with 0 being the lowest intensity (most stable) and 10 being the highest intensity (least stable). The total score is the sum of the 12 indicators and is on a scale of 0-120.
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[CENTER][/CENTER]Sustainable http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...x-2012.svg.png Indicators of state vulnerability
The index's ranks are based on twelve indicators of state vulnerability - four social, two economic and six politicalThe indicators are not designed to forecast when states may experience violence or collapse. Instead, they are meant to measure a state's vulnerability to collapse or conflict. All countries in the red (Alert, FSI of 90 or more), orange (Warning, FSI of 60 or more), or yellow (Moderate, FSI of 30 or more) categories display some features that make parts of their societies and institutions vulnerable to failure. Some in the yellow zone may be failing at a faster rate than those in the more dangerous orange or red zones, and therefore could experience violence sooner. Conversely, some in the red zone, though critical, may exhibit some positive signs of recovery or be deteriorating slowly, giving them time to adopt mitigating strategies. Social indicators
Demographic pressures: including the pressures deriving from high population density relative to food supply and other life-sustaining resources. The pressure from a population's settlement patterns and physical settings, including border disputes, ownership or occupancy of land, access to transportation outlets, control of religious or historical sites, and proximity to environmental hazards.[8]
Massive movement of refugees and internally displaced peoples: forced uprooting of large communities as a result of random or targeted violence and/or repression, causing food shortages, disease, lack of clean water, land competition, and turmoil that can spiral into larger humanitarian and security problems, both within and between countries.
Legacy of vengeance-seeking group grievance: based on recent or past injustices, which could date back centuries. Including atrocities committed with impunity against communal groups and/or specific groups singled out by state authorities, or by dominant groups, for persecution or repression. Institutionalized political exclusion. Public scapegoating of groups believed to have acquired wealth, status or power as evidenced in the emergence of "hate" radio, pamphleteering and stereotypical or nationalistic political rhetoric.
Chronic and sustained human flight: both the "brain drain" of professionals, intellectuals and political dissidents and voluntary emigration of "the middle class." Growth of exile/expatriate communities are also used as part of this indicator.
Economic indicators
Uneven economic development along group lines: determined by group-based inequality, or perceived inequality, in education, jobs, and economic status. Also measured by group-based poverty levels, infant mortality rates, education levels
Sharp and/or severe economic decline: measured by a progressive economic decline of the society as a whole (using: per capita income, GNP, debt, child mortality rates, poverty levels, business failures.) A sudden drop in commodity prices, trade revenue, foreign investment or debt payments. Collapse or devaluation of the national currency and a growth of hidden economies, including the drug trade, smuggling, and capital flight. Failure of the state to pay salaries of government employees and armed forces or to meet other financial obligations to its citizens, such as pension payments.[ Political indicators
Criminalization and/or delegitimisation of the state: endemic corruption or profiteering by ruling elites and resistance to transparency, accountability and political representation. Includes any widespread loss of popular confidence in state institutions and processes. Progressive deterioration of public services: a disappearance of basic state functions that serve the people, including failure to protect citizens from terrorism and violence and to provide essential services, such as health, education, sanitation, public transportation. Also using the state apparatus for agencies that serve the ruling elites, such as the security forces, presidential staff, central bank, diplomatic service, customs and collection agencies.
Widespread violation of human rights: an emergence of authoritarian, dictatorial or military rule in which constitutional and democratic institutions and processes are suspended or manipulated. Outbreaks of politically inspired (as opposed to criminal) violence against innocent civilians. A rising number of political prisoners or dissidents who are denied due process consistent with international norms and practices. Any widespread abuse of legal, political and social rights, including those of individuals, groups or cultural institutions (e.g., harassment of the press, politicization of the judiciary, internal use of military for political ends, public repression of political opponents, religious or cultural persecution.)[
Security apparatus as "state within a state": an emergence of elite or praetorian guards that operate with impunity. Emergence of state-sponsored or state-supported private militias that terrorize political opponents, suspected "enemies," or civilians seen to be sympathetic to the opposition. An "army within an army" that serves the interests of the dominant military or political clique. Emergence of rival militias, guerilla forces or private armies in an armed struggle or protracted violent campaigns against state security forces.
Rise of factionalised elites: a fragmentation of ruling elites and state institutions along group lines. Use of aggressive nationalistic rhetoric by ruling elites, especially destructive forms of communal irredentism or communal solidarity (e.g., "ethnic cleansing", "defending the faith").[18]
Intervention of other states or external factors: military or Paramilitary engagement in the internal affairs of the state at risk by outside armies, states, identity groups or entities that affect the internal balance of power or resolution of the conflict. Intervention by donors, especially if there is a tendency towards over-dependence on foreign aid or peacekeeping missions.[19]
But if Islam is a religion of peace, why would there be fighting and killing over a perceived insult to their religion? If their faith is so strong, why fight over such an insult? Answer-it's not a religion of peace. It'll be a religion of peace only when everyone in the world is muslim.
There's the definition of peace they mean.
What a bunch of hypocritical crap that demand is.
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