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Old 09-19-2012, 04:31 PM
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What's really sad is how easily the masses can be hoodwinked by blatantly fraudulent claims, who's fundamental basis fails from the start. Hundreds of thousands of years if climate data, extracted from ice core samples show that atmospheric CO2 levels rise as a RESULT of a warming cycle ... 800 years after that warming has occurred ... consequently, being a result of warming precludes it from being the bloody cause. One would naturally assume that virtually everyone could grasp this basic level of cause and effect ... you have a cause, then an effect. It is not close to complex logic, and I have no idea why this seems so difficult a concept for those who have bought the AGW fairytale, particularly after that fact is explained. It's really quite astounding. Are you saying that this is not true? Or are you simply dismissing the linear relationship between cause and effect?
It can be both a cause and an efffect.

 
Old 09-19-2012, 04:35 PM
 
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nei you have a point. i could care a less if the hoopla happens... So what if it does? Either man will be smart enough to move or he won't and will drown.... Either way I see no effect worthy of mention...

Earth does what earth does and all man can do is react. IE move.

The whole point from MMGWarmists is it's cars! BS! to that. If it has to do with cars then it has to do with every detail that makes CO from plastics to hardware and that would be enough to stop all forms of energy to the last match.

I call total hog wash and even if i am wrong so what?

Before man the earth became too hot for many living things, and after that too cold.

One day the earth will be turned into a cinder to, and if man hasn't moved by then man will no longer be, but i suspect man will be long gone far before the time Earth ends life for everything.

Man is pretty much a figment of his own imagination and much to self important.

Not even the whole Democratic party can stop anyone from Death, as much as they might like to think so.
 
Old 09-19-2012, 04:45 PM
 
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It can be both a cause and an efffect.
Ok ... I'd really like to hear how that works. How can a result cause itself? Particularly in this instance, given the long duration of 800 years between the warming and rise of CO2 levels.

Please explain. Or is this just something that defies explanation, as I suspect?
 
Old 09-19-2012, 05:34 PM
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Ok ... I'd really like to hear how that works. How can a result cause itself? Particularly in this instance, given the long duration of 800 years between the warming and rise of CO2 levels.

Please explain. Or is this just something that defies explanation, as I suspect?
Heat can cause CO2 release. For example colder oceans could store more CO2. CO2 release also warms the planet. Much of the post-ice age warming continues after 800 years.
 
Old 09-19-2012, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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I care that it IS warming, but not why, and the reason for that is that I seriously doubt that we can do much to stop it.
There are plenty of things to worry about in the world. Things you can't control are not one of them.
 
Old 09-19-2012, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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34 second display of the arctic's record breaking ice melt.


The Arctic's Record Breaking Ice Melt - YouTube
Record breaking??? What record in time are we talking about here?

I love the left and the global warming crowd, it's only a regional weather pattern when it's in the US, but when it's in the Arctic, then it's proof of a global climate change. ROFL
 
Old 09-19-2012, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Heat can cause CO2 release. For example colder oceans could store more CO2. CO2 release also warms the planet. Much of the post-ice age warming continues after 800 years.
The beginning of the last century we warmed out of centuries long little ice-age (LIA), we do not know exactly what caused it to subside, and we do not know how much more we will warm out of it, or if we will fall back into it. Will we warm right back up to the Medieval Warming Period? No one knows.
 
Old 09-19-2012, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Uh, the last ice age ended between 10,000 and 20,000 years ago.
 
Old 09-19-2012, 06:24 PM
 
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Uh, the last ice age ended between 10,000 and 20,000 years ago.
Your point?

Nature doesn't use the same time frames as human beings...
 
Old 09-19-2012, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Your point?

Nature doesn't use the same time frames as human beings...
The point was to correct Wapasha's claim that the last ice age ended at the beginning of the last century...
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