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Old 09-28-2012, 04:02 PM
 
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In eight years he will have saved $33 600 in fuel, and I am sure the car will be worth more than scrap metal value.
LOL, how do you arrive at the absurd number of $33,600? Are you comparing it to a SUV?

Show your math.

As far as the scarp metal comment no one is going to buy a car with 80K on it if they expect it to fail at any time and the cost to fix it is going to be many thousands of dollars.
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Old 09-28-2012, 04:05 PM
 
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I will buy an electric car when they improve the technology, which WILL happen.

It's asinine to suggest bailing out GM was the wrong move because of one car line. What fools.
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Old 09-28-2012, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Looks like Obama has another loser notch on his belt. The Chevy Volt the overpriced car that is a failure.

‘Record’ Volt Sales?Â* Not Really -- GM Counts $159 Leases for an $89,000 Car | NewsBusters.org
Wow, they are really losing tons of profits on that lousy car, $5,700 for a three year lease, for a $90,000 car. Way to go for an 0bama signature agenda item.
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Old 09-28-2012, 04:13 PM
 
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How about this, they are figuring 100K/10years on the battery. Who's going to invest that kind of money in car that has 100K/10 years. The effective life span of this vehicle is 1/2 that of a regular vehicle.
Well the topic is interesting because just the day before I was looking at the Prius C and thinking that it was actually a car I could be interested in if it weren't for the fact that I'm a dedicated AWD car buyer. But then it also dawned on me that we live in one of the only homes with off street parking so the question became, how would we charge a car like the Volt? Where would someone who lived in Center City Philadelphia charge their car (off street parking there is as rare as a hounds tooth)? So it becomes apparent that electric cars for city folks just aren't ready for prime time.

But on the other hand, I remember when window unit air conditioners were the size of small refrigerators or when a color TV cost as much as a car and there wasn't much color programing to watch even if you had one. So my position on the Volt is like anything technological, early adapters pay the high cost of innovation, its always been that way and there is always someone willing to pay a premium for the newest and I'm glad that GM is one of the first to produce such a vehicle regardless of its impracticality for most car buyers. And who knows what 10 years of production will come up with.

PS - 2001 Subaru Outback with 75,000 miles. I am a heavy user of commuter rail, walking and my bicycle. If I had the cash and the Volt was AWD, I'd buy one. Hell I'd might have bought one even if it didn't have AWD if I had the cash.
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Old 09-28-2012, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Florida
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You strike me as the kind of person who would have been sneering at cars about 100 years ago, saying "those things will never outlast the trusted horse and buggy."

Alternative fuel transportation is nascent now, but it will improve. It needs to start somewhere. It's easy to denigrate technological innovation in an internet forum (something you now use frequently and probably also would never have believed possible two decades ago), but world-altering change is achieved by those not afraid to go out and try something and work through failures.
They have been trying to get this perfected for decades and it just doesn't fly.
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Old 09-28-2012, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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In eight years he will have saved $33 600 in fuel, and I am sure the car will be worth more than scrap metal value.
And the day after that, the owner need to fork over thousands of dollars to replace all of the expensive batteries.
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Old 09-28-2012, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Wow, they are really losing tons of profits on that lousy car, $5,700 for a three year lease, for a $90,000 car. Way to go for an 0bama signature agenda item.
Taxpayers money means nothing to Obama.. we just get in charged on the American people's credit card.
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Old 09-28-2012, 05:17 PM
 
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Default How electric cars work

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Old 09-28-2012, 05:23 PM
 
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You strike me as the kind of person who would have been sneering at cars about 100 years ago, saying "those things will never outlast the trusted horse and buggy."
The first electric car was invented more than 100 years ago, by the way.
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Old 09-28-2012, 05:31 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Right, I think such cars will work for some people, but not for everyone, but even if 20-30% used those kinds of cars, it would make a huge difference.
These types of cars, as well as smart cars, are perfect for someone living in a city. Don't know why people look down on them so much
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