Do you know anyone without health insurance? (how much, election, elect)

[enemy country]

Originally Posted by california-jewel

I will not judge as you just have. Without walking in a onwer's shoes and know what their business finances are like, how can i judge.

Without knowing the whole sccop of a small business, i cannot judge.

Do you realize some businesses are barely afloat right now, that ain't no lie, that you should even know.

If they care so much then why vote down the only person who has done one damn thing about it in all these years
I call BS

[pch1013]

Originally Posted by Roadking2003

If we didn't have government in the health insurance business the world would be totally different. Government mandates in some states add more than 50% to the cost of health insurance.

Yes, like requirements that group policies cover people with pre-existing conditions.

I have a pre-existing condition. Are you suggesting America would be better off if I had no health insurance?

[enemy country]

Originally Posted by pch1013

Yes, like requirements that group policies cover people with pre-existing conditions.

I have a pre-existing condition. Are you suggesting America would be better off if I had no health insurance?

Yes. And so does his party
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[monkeywrenching]

Originally Posted by enemy country

If they care so much then why vote down the only person who has done one damn thing about it in all these years
I call BS

because it is not the goverments responsibility to provide for health care, never has and never should have been. general welfare does not mean nanny from cradle to grave.

[pch1013]

Originally Posted by monkeywrenching

because it is not the goverments responsibility to provide for health care, never has and never should have been. general welfare does not mean nanny from cradle to grave.

Apparently it does mean letting people die like animals in the gutter if they can't afford health care.

[vamos]

My brother in law and his wife do not have health insurance. They both work but neither employer provides health benefits. They also have a toddler who is semi-covered for some issues under a Florida law that I am not familiar with, the parents have zero coverage.

When one of them gets ill, the go to the local ER to get treatment because it is the only place that MUST provide treatment and that will get the bill settled via the state. In other words, when they need health care, it costs me and you at least $2,000, regardless of what they have: A simple thing like the toddler throwing up, for example.

When I have to take my daughter to the doctor, I pay a pre-negotiated insurance rate of $60 for the exact same service my brother in law receives...

I would much rather have my brother in law pay a pre-negotiated rate as well or, if he is unable to pay, have you and me be out of $60 and not $2,000.

[vamos]

Originally Posted by pch1013

Apparently it does mean letting people die like animals in the gutter if they can't afford health care.

Yes, that is exactly what they are proposing. Although, of course, they really don't like it when it is put into such drastic words.

[monkeywrenching]

Originally Posted by pch1013

Apparently it does mean letting people die like animals in the gutter if they can't afford health care.

look, I do not mind goverment providing health care to those that NEED it, but the vast majority of americans do not need goverment health care. get goverment out of the health care scam, and the prices of such care shall go down.

also limit wrongful suits against the doctors to those paitents that are actually hurt, and dont let people sue doctors just because they were too stupid to follow the doctors advice.

[pch1013]

Originally Posted by monkeywrenching

look, I do not mind goverment providing health care to those that NEED it

But above, you just said:

it is not the goverments responsibility to provide for health care, never has and never should have been.

That is a Romney-grade flip-flop right there.

So which is it?

[enemy country]

Originally Posted by pch1013

But above, you just said:



That is a Romney-grade flip-flop right there.

So which is it?

Just like romney its what ever the moment provides