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Old 11-02-2012, 12:42 AM
 
Location: Pa
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What a load of bs. Is that what they're telling you over on the rightwing media sights.. absolutely absurd.
Obama couldnt seal the deal and that is exactly why the troops came home from Iraq. An agreement between the Bush admin and Iraq set a date. The date came and Iraq wanted us gone. What credit does BO deserve from that?
Binladen. Seal Team 6 nailed Bin Laden. Obama sat safe and sound at home no risk to his safety.
He gets credit for saying go ahead. His admin then leaked how we found Bin Laden and the man who made it happen was arrested. Obama owns the R for this also.
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Old 11-02-2012, 12:49 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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As you claim this whole Benghazi story about FOX's assertion that the president was somehow responsible and complicit in the murders of the ambassador and his body guards then present your facts dont expect me to go scouring all over the net to find your story,i'm satisfiedv with what i saw on tv and the way it was presented and the Presidents actions in dealing with the matter.
As far as MSM is concerned a mob stormed the embassy and within that mob were terrorists who used the chaos to their advantage to carry out the murders. tragic and unfortunate but basically end of story..
Errr, you are the one with limited info and asking the questions, not me. By your own admission you were out of the loop and are only catching up. I've been watching this unfold from the beginning. MSM is your only credible source? Shows how limited your knowledge is. It's like walking in at the end of a movie and thinking you know the whole story.
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Old 11-02-2012, 12:53 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Did Bush ever own up to the WMD lie that got us into an unnecessary war that got how many of our young soldiers killed?, and who ended that war?
There was a timeline to end that war. That timeline was not created by this administration. It was a handover timeline. Didn't this administration also say we would start to drawdown our troops in Afghanistan in 2012? Rather than a drawdown more troops are being sent in and the timeline is being extended - and in the meantime the blue on green attacks are increasing. More of our troops are being killed.
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Old 11-02-2012, 12:58 AM
 
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Bush's mistake was an entire war not one incident. Does anyone really think that a few extra security guards would have prevented the incident in Benghazi? And it was the Republican senate who voted to reduce spending on embassy security.
Get your facts straight. Money has nothing to do with this. There was $2 billion in the coffers. As for voting on cutting embassy security: Democrats 147, Republicans 149.
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Old 11-02-2012, 01:03 AM
 
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So, even though that story (an angry mob) has been proven false, that it was a planned attack by al-Qaeda (and they took credit for it the following day), the MSM (Obama News Services) is still sticking to that story? Good God!!! How stupid are they?

This was known to have been a al-Qaeda planned attack within 24 hours. As details have come to light, we have learned that the White House watched it in real time as it was happening. It is very likely (if not obvious) that the President would have been in that Situation Room watching the event unfold as well. The entire story of an angry mob, and a video, was a cover-up.

As an American citizen, I have a right to know, and demand to know, the Presidents involvement in this cover-up, and why our gunship and other defenses, were told to "stand down." Who gave that order? Was it Obama?

President Richard Nixon was forced to resign for less.
You are explaining the events to someone by their own admission is just finding out what happened. Must have been far away on some secluded island where he had no access to internet or a TV. Comes back from wherever, tunes into MSM and voila!!!! he has all the info he needs to draw a conclusion.
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Old 11-02-2012, 02:05 AM
 
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Saying I take responsibility and actually taking responsibility are 2 different things.
Taking responsibility would be admitting to misleading the public about the nature of the attack.
It would be taking ownership of the failures and coming clean. Not hiding behind underlings.
He has yet to come clean in anyway.
That is what fuels the conspiracy stories.
With the gun-running aspect of Benghazi, reminds me of the Iran-Contra covert operations affair. Reagan played his hand well, he exposed it himself, had people cover for him and willing to take the fall for him and not testify against him. It is claimed that Reagan was fully aware of it, including arms-for-hostages. He saved has azz by coming out with it before he was accused of being a part of it. Also, no ambassador was killed because of it.

And guess who was involved in the Iran-Contra scandal - Robert Gates, who served as Secretary of Defense under Bush and continued under the Obama administration until 2011.

The Iran-Contra Affair 20 Years On

It seems that Henry Gonzalez(D-Texas) tried to have Reagan and Bush impeached, but failed.

If the arming of Syrian rebels is true, then the Syrian government has a case against the US, as did Nigaragua. Nigaragua filed a case agains the US in the International Court of Justice, in which the Court found in favor of Nigaragua:
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Nicaragua charged:
(a) That the United States, in recruiting, training, arming, equipping, financing, supplying and otherwise encouraging, supporting, aiding, and directing military and paramilitary actions in and against Nicaragua, had violated its treaty obligations to Nicaragua under
Nicaragua v. United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaSeems Obama is floating on the "plausible deniability" premise that saved Reagan.

Understanding the Iran-Contra Affairs - Enduring Issues
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Old 11-02-2012, 02:41 AM
 
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Errr, you are the one with limited info and asking the questions, not me. By your own admission you were out of the loop and are only catching up. I've been watching this unfold from the beginning. MSM is your only credible source? Shows how limited your knowledge is. It's like walking in at the end of a movie and thinking you know the whole story.
And your source of information on this issue would be?

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As far as MSM is concerned a mob stormed the embassy and within that mob were terrorists who used the chaos to their advantage to carry out the murders. tragic and unfortunate but basically end of story..
Coincides with what i saw on many news sources..
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Old 11-02-2012, 02:50 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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Seriously. I know you all like to pretend that the outrage is anything beyond just politicizing this in hopes that it'll tarnish Obama. Its unlikely. Just give it up. Yes, Americans died. Guess what? They worked in a war torn dangerous country. Its not like they took these jobs without assuming some level of risk.

The east coast is in terrible shape, and most citizens are more concerned about our own country than some GOP attempt to act like there was some massive coverup. You'll all stop caring on November 7th.
It is all about cowardice.
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Old 11-02-2012, 02:59 AM
 
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And your source of information on this issue would be?
WTH are you talking about? Source? information? ISSUE?
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Old 11-02-2012, 03:05 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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This outrage is PURELY partisan.

See, this thread has already devolved into a he said, she said trainwreck.

People screwed up Clinton and Obama took responsibility. I heard Obama say as much at the second debate. Done.

Why would it matter if it was a crowd or Al Queda? It was a screw up and a failure in any case. No one is denying that.
how is lieing to the American people for two weeks taking responsibility he blamed an INTERNET film and you claim that is taking responsibility.He lied to the American people and you call that taking responsibility. He politicized it by lieing
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