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Sweden has similar laws to ours and less restrictions.. They have more guns per capita than any nation and yet their gun fatality rate is low.. It's not about guns... It's about a mentallity..
It's a moot point. This is a problem within the power of government to solve, and the only way government can act is by legislation. Since mentality can't be legislated, the instrument must be. You can't stop me from thinking pyromaniac thoughts, but you can outlaw my possession of kerosene.
Criminals won't follow gun bans just like they don't follow the laws in place currently. How can one enforce such bans on certain weapons when we have wide open borders that will just allow them to flow through?? We learned you can't stop drugs from coming on what makes anyone think we could stop weapons?
Truth is, all the arguments concerning more restrictive gun laws made by gun advocates are true. The Mantras of "Criminals will get guns no matter what", "Banning guns will not stop mass murderers" and on and on are true statements. My point is that the pendulum of society's perceptions has swung in the direction of more restrictions. The bulk of society is looking at our president to lead in this matter and have no doubt, he will. He didn't want to have this fight but now that it is in his lap via recent events, he will lead in the only way society wants.
I'm certain that the real solution is to completely overhaul the nation's mental health system that Ronald Reagan dismantled during his administration as a cost saving measure. If this guy's mother had mental health services readily available for her son, this probably would never have happened.
But I'm afraid politicians won't do this, as the cost would be in the many billions of dollars and the benefits would not be realized for years. Creating flashy restrictions against all manner of guns will play big with the American public and not cost the government a dime. This is the kind of legislation politicians love and goes front and center on their resume.
I do believe that there are enough republicans in the house to get a bill through. Remember, politicians play to their constituents and public opinion is very much for "some definite action" concerning these mass killings.
How have they solved it? There are still mass murders all over the world. There have been mass murders in the US for the last hundred years but now all of a sudden the world is ending if we don't ban guns? That is your entire argument. It won't change anything.
It's a moot point. This is a problem within the power of government to solve, and the only way government can act is by legislation. Since mentality can't be legislated, the instrument must be. You can't stop me from thinking pyromaniac thoughts, but you can outlaw my possession of kerosene.
If you outlaw kerosene you will start a fire with whatever else is available. Or just illegally get you some kerosene. Criminals don't follow the law.
It's a lot easier to kill people with a gun than with kerosene. A fire usually gives people some time to escape.
Ever start a fire with gasoline? How much time do you have to run from a 20ft gasoline trail? The fastest human on earth can't get away if the placement is right.. Then it's just a question of what the trail leads to.
Truth is, all the arguments concerning more restrictive gun laws made by gun advocates are true. The Mantras of "Criminals will get guns no matter what", "Banning guns will not stop mass murderers" and on and on are true statements. My point is that the pendulum of society's perceptions has swung in the direction of more restrictions. The bulk of society is looking at our president to lead in this matter and have no doubt, he will. He didn't want to have this fight but now that it is in his lap via recent events, he will lead in the only way society wants.
I'm certain that the real solution is to completely overhaul the nation's mental health system that Ronald Reagan dismantled during his administration as a cost saving measure. If this guy's mother had mental health services readily available for her son, this probably would never have happened.
But I'm afraid politicians won't do this, as the cost would be in the many billions of dollars and the benefits would not be realized for years. Creating flashy restrictions against all manner of guns will play big with the American public and not cost the government a dime. This is the kind of legislation politicians love and goes front and center on their resume.
I do believe that there are enough republicans in the house to get a bill through. Remember, politicians play to their constituents and public opinion is very much for "some definite action" concerning these mass killings.
You are correct. The "mob" is demanding that this stops and will agree with about anything thrown out even though it won't solve the problem. As long as it makes them feel like they are part of the solution they will nod their heads in approval and think all is well.
Yes but in the US we already confiscate guns from people who shouldn't legally own them... if they are caught.
If you're saying that you would give up your guns once there wasn't another gun in the country, legally or illegally owned, then that would make sense. But we all know that's a literal impossibility.
Yes it is an impossibility and my example was addressed at the far left fringe who's ultimate objective is to eliminate all firearms in the country. Maybe I should have put is differently.
"Call me when you've confiscated every gun in the nation and I will gladly turn mine in".
And some care less about mass murders than about the preservation of their right to own weapons of mass murder.
Legally owning a gun or not owning one won't make one bit of difference in the mass murderer's mind.
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