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You're using a lot of personal attacks here....I suggest you cut it...
Ah! So much for a balanced discussion concerning reasonable restrictions. I can see that the gun advocates, of which I am one, are just as divided as the rest of the republican party. We will chew each other up arguing about how reasonable restrictions apply or whether they apply at all. In the meantime, the anti gunners will have a blank check to determine what constitutes reasonable and we'll be lucky to have a daisy rifle by the time it's all over because nobody from our side will sit down and find common ground.
Sometimes I feel that my fellow gun owners are only proficient at shooting themselves in the foot with their wide variety of firearms.
Stealing has been against the rules since the ten commandments were written. The I don't steal because there are laws against it argument doesn't fly IMO. You don't steal because it's wrong first and foremost not because somebody made it a law. Neither is killing folks.
True.
I'm pretty sure I could get by with things like murder and stealing. I know I could steal from the workplace. Laws really don't work or we woiuldn't have pot and meth being sold in every middle and high school. We wouldn't have tons of meth and pot coming over the border every day if laws worked. We wouldn't have 30 million foreigners living here illegally if the government could even do the job it was supposed to do.
The reason I don't steal is because I was taught it was morally wrong. Same reason I don't kill anyone.
The problem is you cannot legislate to prevent "violent intentions".
To date all these shooters led perfectly normal lives.
Not haveing 800 facebook friends does not make you "odd".
Keeping to yourself and reading and high grades shouldn't make you "odd".
Fear drives knee jerk actions.
It's the "evil intentions" committing violence and there is no law you an invoke to prevent or stop that from happening.
Illogical. The chief purpose of legislation is to announce what the state regards as wrong behaviour; the punitive consequence merely follows from the declaration of misdemeanor. Therefore, if morality determines behaviour, it behooves the state to pronounce on the immorality of a certain thing. Legislation is public morality.
When the public has no morality legislation does no good. You can't legislate morality to mass murderers.
The problem is you cannot legislate to prevent "violent intentions".
To date all these shooters led perfectly normal lives.
Not haveing 800 facebook friends does not make you "odd".
Keeping to yourself and reading and high grades shouldn't make you "odd".
Fear drives knee jerk actions.
It's the "evil intentions" committing violence and there is no law you an invoke to prevent or stop that from happening.
Correct, you can't legislate intentions.
But if it were a law to have all firearms secured at all times, maybe this kid wouldn't have gotten his hands on his moms guns. The technology now allows instant access with a finger scan, so there is no way to scream about ease of access.
EVERYONE with other people living in the house should have ALL firearms secured at all times.
Maybe a law that holds the owner responsible for any harm caused by someone else using their gun?
Maybe a law requiring all guns in a home being locked up.
Maybe a mental health flag that would come up on background searches. No details, but a flag.
This wouldn't stop all access, but it would possibly help, and wouldn't require any responsible owner to lose any rights.
Yes, people will not always follow the laws, but we can make it more difficult for the guns to get into other peoples hands.
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