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these people who have done these shootings around the country have broken many laws, do you really think that one more will make them decide, "you know, it just isnt worth the jail now with that new law in place, so i wont go on a shooting spree"?
I would like to be rich, but I am deterred by the law from walking into a bank and demanding all the money. Therefore, the law has worked as intended for at least one person. On the other hand, we know that since banks continue to be robbed, some at not deterred. Therefore, we should revoke the laws against bank-robbery. Or perhaps we should keep the laws, and let the police do their work.
This is so elementary. Until something is made illegal, police agencies are unable to do anything about it. Criminals risk getting caught - we have a criminal code, not in the belief that we can abolish crime, but because it increases the risk of crime.
Your logic would hold that we should revoke laws against rape, because we know that such laws will not entirely prevent rape. But then, that does seem to be the direction of RWNJ thinking, lately.
This is a good post that brings up a good point.
In my town in Arizona, there was a product being sold called "Bath Salts". It was driving the teenagers nuts who were buying it. One stabbed his girlfriend and one drove off a cliff with four buddies in the car. All high on "Bath Salts". The police couldn't do anything about it because "Bath Salts" were legal. After about 30 bizarre incidents in a small town of 8,000, the town banned the product and made it illegal. Guess what. The bizarre actions were greatly reduced. Sure, the kids now could still take meth, or huff paint but the "Bath Salts" really was in a class by itself for off the wall behavior. Legislation does have an impact on society. Anybody who doesn't think so has their head in the sand.
Realize this: Either I get to have my "assault weapon," or I don't consent to being part of your country. You come after guns, and you will crack this country.
This is really the underlying argument, isn't it: an argument against gun control based on intimidation.
Like the passage of Hitler's enabling laws, with the SA crowding the streets around the Reichstag, chanting "we want the bill or fire and murder!".
This is really the underlying argument, isn't it: an argument against gun control based on intimidation.
Ah, you invert the aggression. One has a natural right to all methods of self defense. If you attack a man's right to defend himself, you are the aggressor.
Don't attack a man, and you won't force him to defend himself from you.
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No you sniff a gun owner, and daughter of a Marine. I don't want my fathers guns taken away from me.
Your guns would only be taken if you didn't use them to thwart the taking.
So how are laws banning guns going to change anything when criminals don't obey laws as you just pointed out?
I believe there are a lot of criminals that would not use guns if they didn't have to.
In America, you use a gun in the commission of a crime because you assume that the intended target is also going to have a gun.
In countries where people don't have guns on hand, the criminals tend to not use guns either, because they aren't in fear for their lives.
Does that make the criminals good people? NO - but it does prevent the end result that when everyone has a gun someone is probably going to get shot.
I think your average burglar would rather not carry a lethal weapon, to be honest.
I realize I'm going to get poo pooed for this, but not all criminals are murderers.
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