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The primary purpose of all weapons control legislation is to disarm the relativly poor. The plutocrats fear a well armed population and always have.
As far as owning an "assault weapon" (say any full automatic firearm) I would like to have a Thompson Sub machine gun just because they are easy to shoot. I would also like an M-3 "burp" or "grease" gun also because it is a simple design, reliable and easy to use.
FWIW - I am, except for a slight disregard for speed limits, a Law Abiding Citizen.
Actually, the Gun of choice used by the CT shooter was a Bushmaster. They are very easy to shoot, little recoil, high velocity( will not change coarse in underbrush. Blasts through about anything in the way ! IE: guess thats why they called it a Bushmaster. I had a much earlier model, which was quite intimidating, much more so than today's models. They are very easy to modify to full automatic.
If my memory serves me right when I owned mine it was already illegal in ether mode.That was back in the 80s. We did not really feel any safer off shore, alone on our 45' sailboat, but did feel, should the worst happen, we would have gone down fighting to the end. The problem I found out later traveling the waters of the Gulf and Caribbean was the bad guys already had much bigger firepower. The Bushmaster was only a personal self deference weapon. Better than any hand gun, including my 357 stainless , which was not very actuate, way to much recoil for the Kids to use. Everyone liked the Bushmaster, it was a fun " toy" I guess.
My weapons have never gone anywhere but hunting or the shooting range. The rest of the time they are locked in a large safe.
A dozen posts on a single forum isn't representative of gun owners anymore than Che G. is representative of all liberals.
And yet only 4 posts down, we get this little gem:
This may be an excellent time to galvanize support for not only ending “Criminal Safe Zones” but to repeal all that other legislation that has no other purpose but to incrementally disarm the people and empower the government.
[] End the tax / ban on suppressors
[] End the tax / ban on automatic weaponry
[] End the tax / ban on modified weapons
[] Only blame the perpetrator, not the tools he uses to inflict harm And if they won't comply
[] threaten them with wholesale withdrawal from the socialist democratic form.
Any fool KNOWS he doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell with his "hunting rifle" against mulitiple attackers (threats).
Multiple attackers?? Watch video games much?
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I do not understand why people are not discussing the reason why someone commits such a heinous crime. To me, that should be the point of discussion...Not the object that was used to cause it.
Good point....and I agree with more emphasis on mental health issues and prevention. However, that would mean more spending and revenue and taxes and that would against most gun advocates voting agendas.
You did not read what he said ( in your fast fury to defend shooters). There is a difference between assault weapons and "Modern sporting Guns". We need to follow the guidelines of others who have gone through this, like Ca. when identifying which guns are used for what, I agree with that, Surely you do too ? I also agree there is a time and place ( sadly ) for assault weapons, read my earlier post about my Bushmaster.
Modern sporting rifles are what people consider assult rifles it just a nicer sounding name, that is why Dick's pulled them from their shelves. You do understand assult rifle is really just a term to make them sound scary right? these so called assult weapons are just semi auto loading rifles that mock a military design, there are other rifles which operate in the same manner but are not classified as assult weapons, none of these weapons are assult weapons they are really modern sporting guns. these weapons are not sold to the public as a weapon to assult people with. It's not the gun it's the nut who should never had the oppertunity to posess the gun which is the real problem.
Modern sporting rifles are what people consider assult rifles it just a nicer sounding name, that is why Dick's pulled them from their shelves. You do understand assult rifle is really just a term to make them sound scary right? these so called assult weapons are just semi auto loading rifles that mock a military design, there are other rifles which operate in the same manner but are not classified as assult weapons, none of these weapons are assult weapons they are really modern sporting guns. these weapons are not sold to the public as a weapon to assult people with. It's not the gun it's the nut who should never had the oppertunity to posess the gun which is the real problem.
Are you telling me the Bushmaster is the same as a " hunting rifle", like all the deer hunters use ? I doubt that is the case, but its been a long time since I sold my Bushmaster, with multi clips. If I recall right each one held 9 rounds. It would seem to me that a ,223 Gun would be great for hunting due to its ability's in rough terrain. maybe not though due to the size of the bullet head. and its fast velocity.I guess the goal is to strike the prey with a disabling force that only comes from a 3006 or 30-30 rifle.( or something bigger in a metric size.) Where I grew up in Iowa, big rifles were banned. You could only hunt with shotguns and "slugs" ? in place of shot.
In the wake of the world trade center attack , we had to change the way we live, and that made for some unpopular choices in our freedoms.
We accepted those changes for the better good of society, and now because of the six multiple victim attacks this year, it is once again time to take solid action to prevent further violence in this manner.
As with any new decision, there will be a segment of society that is more affected by change, than others.
That is the cost we must endure if the publicc is to be protected.
I have long been an advocate of gun control, and in light of the latest mass murder, I believe there is one, and only one solution to guns in this country, and that is to have the federal government confiscate all of them through out the land.
That would take a constitutional amendment to replace the second amendment, but I feel the time has long since passed when we can just sweep these mass murders under the carpet, and pretend they never happened.
Sacrafices will have to be made regarding gun ownership in this country, and those of you who feel it is necessary to be armed, will have to re-think your lodgic.
Along with tough new law regarding guns, the penalties for having one or more, must also be extremely tough.
I feel after all guns are confiscated, the mandatiry sentence of possession of one should be life in prison without parole.
That in itself will be a deterrent to any one wanting to posess a gun, including the criminal element.
I am not talking just one or two particular models of gun, but ALL guns, regardless of what they are used for.
The only allowable exception would naturally be, law enforcement, and the military.
They would be the only jurisdictions where guns would still be allowed.
There are many who would argue the citizenry needs to be armed to the possibility that the government would overtake it's citizens.
That is just plain foolish, and does not even deserve space in this posting.
I believe once the word is out that being found with a gun will get the posessor life in prison , even criminals would think twice before carrying one.
Some will ask, well what about the dude that breaks into my home and comes at me with a knife?
That will never happen.
Criminals that rob, are not going to get that close to their victims .
They like the security of being able to shoot them from a distance wher there will be no physical harm to themselves.
As many of you know, the senator who represents the citizens of California has been working hard to re-instate the ban on assault weapons.
I don't think her bill goes far enough, and I will be emailing her office to express my concerns and suggestions.
Asault weapons are any weapon that one would use to assault another.
They are not limited to automatic fire status.
A knife is an assault weapon.
A screwdriver in the wrong haands could be an asault weapon.
The bill is flawed, and the wording needs to be changed to specify exactly what constitutes an assault weapon.
In the meantime, I would suggest, those of you who want stricter controls on guns in this country, contact your reps in Washington and voice your opinion.
Perhaps some good will come out of this dastedily act where so many young innocent lives were taken.
I sure hope so,
Bob.
Are you telling me the Bushmaster is the same as a " hunting rifle", like all the deer hunters use ? I doubt that is the case, but its been a long time since I sold my Bushmaster, with multi clips. If I recall right each one held 9 rounds. It would seem to me that a ,223 Gun would be great for hunting due to its ability's in rough terrain. maybe not though due to the size of the bullet head. and its fast velocity.I guess the goal is to strike the prey with a disabling force that only comes from a 3006 or 30-30 rifle.( or something bigger in a metric size.) Where I grew up in Iowa, big rifles were banned. You could only hunt with shotguns and "slugs" ? in place of shot.
That all depends on what caliber the weapon was chambered. You can buy AR-15 uppers and barrels for a lot of different calibers. I am looking at picking up an Akdal MKA 1919 AR-15 style 12 gauge shotgun. You can also buy AR-15s in .22 LR, 6.8mm (.300 cal.), 7.62mm x 39mm, .308 cal., 9mm, and .50 cal. BMG, among others. Overall, the AR-15 is a very nice platform for building a tool that specifically meets your needs.
Ideally, you want to hit your prey with at least 2,000 foot pounds of energy. A .3006 will give you 2,000 ft. lbs. at about 150 yards. A .300 Win Mag or a .308 will give you just over 2,000 ft. lbs. at about 200 yards.
I own them because I like to shoot them. I will say its hard to say my right trumps your safety but still I don't rob banks [they rob me] and I don't plan on doing anything stupid with them at all. But I do like to shoot them. They are fun to go to the range and plink with. I have shot comp with my ARs. I am not saying this trumps all the issues of safety but to say there is no reason is not really ture.
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