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The difference is: Being open or not on Sundays is a business decision; whether on not one can use birth control is a person's private issue and has nothing to do with the business.
Right. So why does the business have to pay for it?
Don't get me wrong, birth control is very cost effective. As an employer I would provide it for investment reasons. Less absenteeism and the employees focus and priorities are less divided, so I'm personally all for it. If I'm self-insured like Hobby Lobby, birth control is a lot cheaper than providing medical care for a pregnant woman or additional child. I just don't think someone who objects to it for religious reasons ought to have to pay for it. It becomes a moral issue for self-insured companies such as Hobby Lobby rather than places that just pay premiums to an insurance company and allows employees to select their own plan out of a slate of offerings. Frankly, one way to get rid of the moral dilemma is to not self-insure, but most companies that self-insure do so for financial reasons.
If they don't have to violate their religious views concerning hours of operation, why do they have to violate their religious views when it involves funding contraceptives?
If we're going to become a society where a person is supported to force his/her own religious views on others, it is time that we seriously consider publicly funded health insurance system, designed entirely on secular principles.
Please someone tell me when the pin-heads are going to figure out that an employers views on race, religion, ethnic or nationality have no bearing on the treatment of their employees. If the federal government grants employee rights to workers then the employer must accede to those rights.
Huh? The federal government does not grant rights - it secures them. Those rights are god-given. Among those are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. From liberty - comes the freedom to practice ones religious beliefs free from government intrusion. Freedom to operate one's business free from excessive regulation also falls under liberty.
I can find no justification in the Constitution, nor in natural law, for free contraceptives being a "right" nor for an employer to be compelled to provide them when it conflicts with their religious beliefs.
Further proof that the leftist god is the government.
If we're going to become a society where a person is supported to force his/her own religious views on others, it is time that we seriously consider publicly funded health insurance system, designed entirely on secular principles.
Please explain how anyone's religious beliefs are being "forced" upon someone , concerning the issue which we are discussing.
Please explain how anyone's religious beliefs are being "forced" upon someone , concerning the issue which we are discussing.
Hobby Lobby owner's personal beliefs on employees. The person doesn't shy away from take tax incentives for providing insurance, but wants to control what insurance can cover based on his/her personal beliefs. It is why, we need to put welfare of people back into the hands of secular governance, not in the whims of Mullahs, Popes and like.
Hobby Lobby owner's personal beliefs on employees. The person doesn't shy away from take tax incentives for providing insurance, but wants to control what insurance can cover based on his/her personal beliefs. It is why, we need to put welfare of people back into the hands of secular governance, not in the whims of Mullahs, Popes and like.
There is no compulsion for the employee to work for Hobby Lobby. Thus there is no imposition of religious beliefs. We are discussing a free will contract between two independent parties.
By your "logic" - if a employer insisted on taking Yom Kippur off - and the employer granted the day off - then the employee is imposing their religious beliefs on the employer. You argue that the employer gave consent, so that there is no imposition? Well, the employee who remains at a company that does not offer free contraceptive coverage also gives consent.
The issue here isn't personal beliefs, but the government intruding into a freely negotiated contract between independent parties.
Secular beliefs are being imposed upon Hobby Lobby. The constitution specifically restrains the government from prohibiting the free expression of religion.
Requiring Hobby Lobby to provide abortion or birth control coverage against their wishes violates the First Amendment.
. This is why you can't be coerced into bargaining away your minimum wage, workmen's compensation, or work place safety.
It works both ways. I can't voluntarily choose to not be paid a minimum wage, not pay into a worker's compensation fund, or not have certain safety standards.
should the administration tell them when they can and can't be open - since it's for "religious" reasons that they are closed on Sunday?
If there was an act of Congress properly passed into law that said they need to be open Sunday then yes the Administration could. However, the administration cannot do it on their own. Remember with B/C there is a federal law in play.
Should Hobby Lobby and Chik-Fil-A Be Forced To Open Their Stores on Sunday?
Certainly not. I know Obama is trying to change things, but the last I heard this was still a free country.
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