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Old 01-14-2013, 12:05 AM
 
Location: California
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I would never think I have the right to tell complete strangers anything about their personal lives. God really gives some folks some pretty big kahunas while simultaniously making them forget their manners.

 
Old 01-14-2013, 12:09 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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No surprise you'd use FOX as a source, and even less of a surprise they'd spin it and use misleading headlines. I'm familiar with that story, and there is a lot more to it! For one thing, we have no evidence it was "gays" who did anything... considering people of all orientations attend protests and support gay marriage, it just as easily (more easily if statistics apply) could have been heterosexuals. Second of all, that "innocent old lady" was an instigator who had stirred up trouble at previous protests. Finally, IIRC all they did was throw her styrofoam cross on the ground - hardly a violent assault. I don't condone any form of violent retaliation, but at least present the facts in totality and from an unbiased source.

P.S. What does this have to do with anything? Are you trying to make some connection between an isolated incident, which may or may not have been perpetrated by a homosexual, to these two women who were just trying to have a nice meal? I don't get your point here at all.
 
Old 01-14-2013, 12:14 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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I have never "been shown" such to be true.
I'll have to assume this has been discussed before, based on Fiyero's post... and I will also assume some good evidence/debate was given to you, which you willfully ignored. But to keep it sweet and simple, that isn't the original language and is vague enough to be interpreted many ways - even if we're going with your chosen translation. Show me how it specifically speaks of lesbianism, otherwise the passage only means what you want it to mean (and what I, in turn, want it to mean).

Done, done, and done.
 
Old 01-14-2013, 12:16 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I'll have to assume this has been discussed before, based on Fiyero's post... and I will also assume some good evidence/debate was given to you, which you willfully ignored. But to keep it sweet and simple, that isn't the original language and is vague enough to be interpreted many ways - even if we're going with your chosen translation. Show me how it specifically speaks of lesbianism, otherwise the passage only means what you want it to mean (and what I, in turn, want it to mean).

Done, done, and done.
Why don't you define "lesbian" - so that we both have a frame of reference?
 
Old 01-14-2013, 12:19 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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The Bible instucts them to spread the Gospel. It is what it is. The world is becoming increasingly hostile towards Christians, and now we have reached a point where they are being told to not even talk about their faith. Ironically the very same people who attack Christians also demand that they be married in Christian churches.
Why would anti-Christians want to be married in a Christian church? That makes no sense whatsoever.
 
Old 01-14-2013, 12:21 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Why don't you define "lesbian" - so that we both have a frame of reference?
I dunno, two humans with vaginas who have intimate relations with one another (and not with men)? How would you define it?
 
Old 01-14-2013, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I dunno, two humans with vaginas who have intimate relations with one another (and not with men)? How would you define it?
Romans 1:26

- "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones".
 
Old 01-14-2013, 12:34 AM
 
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How did he "know" they were lesbians? Do his customers all need to declare their sexual preference when ordering off the menu?
 
Old 01-14-2013, 12:55 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Oh, I get it!

Must be nice to know that you don't have to examine your own actions or views because you already know you're right and other people are wrong.
Never said I was right. But I do know I'm not an idiot and I do know an idiot when I see one.

Top hot topics have always been religion and politics. Religion is far more personal and sensitive than politics. I guess that would be due to the fact that those who have a strong relationship with their religion keep in amongst themselves, and that is where it should stay. But when someone wants to step outside their like minded thinking congregation and tries to imposes their beliefs on me to tell me that I'm not living my life according to God, well..........I'm going to react. Who are they to pass judgement on how I live?? If I'm not hurting anyone, live honest, take care of myself, do what I believe is the right thing, then I don't need anyone getting into my life.

I don't want people knocking on my door to "save" me. The Catholic religion was redesigned to suit itself, not the people. There was no message from God to redesign it, the Church did so to suit itself. I went to a born again Christian service. The "priest" put his hands on my head and asked me if I felt that I wanted to speak in tongues (???). Told him no, and I was told it would come in due time. I didn't stick around to see if any snakes would be pulled out of the bag.
 
Old 01-14-2013, 01:03 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Romans 1:26

- "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones".
As I said, the language is vague enough to where it could be interpreted a number of ways... you obviously think that means "they started doing other women," whereas I don't see that at all. Not only could the word "lusts" mean many things (I lust after cupcakes, for example ), but unnatural relations don't necessarily have to be with other women. Many acts can be considered unnatural, even those occurring between a man and woman.
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