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Old 01-13-2013, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Exactly. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. -Ephesians 2:8-9

Acting like a jerk don't cut it with the man upstairs.
"So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."

How will anyone hear if no one is allowed to talk? It is the reason Jesus said the believers should talk about their faith.

He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned

 
Old 01-13-2013, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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No, only a person of faith can draw so much hate for talking about his beliefs. Any other topic would be simply ignored.
Faith or not, he was rude and spewed hate. That is what this is about.
 
Old 01-13-2013, 01:28 PM
 
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"So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."
Pauline epistles aren't the teachings of Christ.
 
Old 01-13-2013, 01:28 PM
 
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So christians are ok with this, but what if the tables were turned? Say you go to a restaurant and pray over your meal. The muslim owner overhears it after you leave, gives you a letter. It informs you that you are an infidel, will burn in hell if you don't submit to Allah, and that he had a daughter who was christian and it ruined his grandkid's life. You wouldn't be incensed at this? Be honest now.
 
Old 01-13-2013, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Faith or not, he was rude and spewed hate. That is what this is about.
Just because you are offended by the truth does not mean his words equate to hate.
 
Old 01-13-2013, 01:32 PM
 
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So christians are ok with this, but what if the tables were turned? Say you go to a restaurant and pray over your meal. The muslim owner overhears it after you leave, gives you a letter. It informs you that you are an infidel, will burn in hell if you don't submit to Allah, and that he had a daughter who was christian and it ruined his grandkid's life. You wouldn't be incensed at this? Be honest now.
That's just the normal persecution good honest Christians face every day. I mean, look at the MTV and the Harry Potter movies and the War on Christmas™. There's a never-ending war in our country against Jesus, and by God, if we have to write bitchy letters to cute lesbian couples in our diners to fight it, then that's what we'll do.
 
Old 01-13-2013, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Pauline epistles aren't the teachings of Christ.
They are inspired by the Holy Spirit and in perfect harmony with the teachings of Christ.
 
Old 01-13-2013, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Florida
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So christians are ok with this, but what if the tables were turned? Say you go to a restaurant and pray over your meal. The muslim owner overhears it after you leave, gives you a letter. It informs you that you are an infidel, will burn in hell if you don't submit to Allah, and that he had a daughter who was christian and it ruined his grandkid's life. You wouldn't be incensed at this? Be honest now.
I made this example myself earlier on. No, it would not infuriate me. I would engage in a conversation with the man.
 
Old 01-13-2013, 01:35 PM
 
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They are inspired by the Holy Spirit and in perfect harmony with the teachings of Christ.
Paul was a closet qu--r who corrupted the teachings of Christ. Of course the Catholic perverts and kiddie diddlers who compiled the bible would say Paul was a-ok.
 
Old 01-13-2013, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Just because you are offended by the truth does not mean his words equate to hate.
What truth? Be specific please.
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