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Originally Posted by gizmo980
Do you have stats for that comment? I'm not 100% sure, but I do believe we've seen a decrease in recent years... and even if there was an increase, can we attribute that to sex ed, or possibly other societal factors?
Well, we obviously had different experiences, since I always noticed the opposite. Case in point, my friend with a strict mother has been pregnant 7 times... I have never been pregnant or caught a disease, and my parents are very liberal. That's probably because I know what a condom is, and how to properly use it. Of course there are different stories for everyone, but can you honestly say that it's better for kids to be uninformed? Everyone will have sex eventually, and I'd like my kids to be well-prepared and educated when the time comes - just my opinion and philosophy, take it or leave it.
Personally I do not think kids need to be taught about water sports and other deviant sex acts as part of sex education and that is where it is headed and has happened.
Explicit Sex-Ed Pamphlets Distributed To Pre-Teens (http://wcbstv.com/local/wellness.fair.gay.2.392825.html - broken link)
Children as young as 10-years-old in Westchester were among those mistakenly given graphic sex education material meant for adults, leaving parents furious and even more upset with answers they're getting about the incident.
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These kinds of "accidents" have happened before. I don't for a minute believe this was a mistake but attempts to expose children to graphic sex under the "oopsie" scheme. What are your childen being exposed to?
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Personally, I don't think parents should be so afraid to talk to their parents about sex. Believe it or not, but by age 10, kids are already very curious about sex. I don't think the pamphlets harmed them!
Okay, the librarian in me had to research... I suggest you ALL read this pamphlet, provided by the most trusted source out there (National Institute of Health): http://www.teenpregnancy.org/works/p...ce_Says_23.pdf
It's a few years old, but as recent as this research gets!
A few interesting facts to ponder...
- Teen pregnancy has decreased in this decade (contrary to what you believe, citigirl), though obviously remains a real problem.
- Teen pregnancy is most prevalent in Hispanic youth, which I only noticed because of ProLogic's comment on Mexican cultural differences... as I said earlier, I believe this only makes the rates higher, and apparently that is true.
- Teens who use contraception with their first sexual experience are less likely to get pregnant in their teen years. Seems logical!
Anyway, it really is an interesting article, though I've only scanned through it briefly... will read more later!
Thanks for this information. If anyone doubts these figures, I suggest you also check CDC data. The CDC is directly responsible for HIV/AIDS data, and as a result they are the government monitoring system for pregnancy as well. It is also funds from CDC (and others) that are used to provide prevention education.
The facts that gizmo980 gives us (above) resemble those collected by NYS (with a large hispanic/latino(a) population).
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Originally Posted by gizmo980
Okay, the librarian in me had to research... I suggest you ALL read this pamphlet, provided by the most trusted source out there (National Institute of Health): http://www.teenpregnancy.org/works/p...ce_Says_23.pdf
It's a few years old, but as recent as this research gets!
A few interesting facts to ponder...
- Teen pregnancy has decreased in this decade (contrary to what you believe, citigirl), though obviously remains a real problem.
- Teen pregnancy is most prevalent in Hispanic youth, which I only noticed because of ProLogic's comment on Mexican cultural differences... as I said earlier, I believe this only makes the rates higher, and apparently that is true.
- Teens who use contraception with their first sexual experience are less likely to get pregnant in their teen years. Seems logical!
Anyway, it really is an interesting article, though I've only scanned through it briefly... will read more later!
It is always interesting that those opposed to choice also are against sex Education AND making birth control available to teens. Obviously they are having sex, so if they will have sex anyway, please, please, please, use birth control. Kids are having sex at younger ages, wether we like it or not. A lot of kids have two working parents and are not supervised as they should be, that is the reality today. Most Mom's have to work and few are able to stay at home. On top of that, sex if EVERYWHERE. Even young girls clothes often look like they are for hookers, instead of young girls. TV shows, magazines, advertising, it all revolves around sex. Is it any wonder kids are starting to have sex earlier and earlier?
I'd rather have them use birth control and protections against STD's if they are going to have sex.
Personally I do not think kids need to be taught about water sports and other deviant sex acts as part of sex education and that is where it is headed and has happened.
rotflol. What kind of approved sexual education curriculum has included water sports??? I mean... that's... not even... like, penetration...
As far as I'm concerned, kids are old enough to have honest answers as soon as they are old enough to formulate honest questions, and while the sample size that I draw upon here is a relatively small one, it seems to me that this is not even so late as late in elementary school. Does that mean you have to back up the dump truck and let them have the whole nine yards all at once? No. But an honest answer and a willingness to receive and then offer the same to follow-up questions can, in my view, go a long way toward fostering a healthy approach to sex, just as it would re any other topic, controversial or no, that might float into the head of an 8-year old.
On a related matter, I think children pick up much more in the way of morals and values from observing the way their parents live their lives than from what they might hear in actual sit-down talks and lectures. As they get older, they'll start comparing that to what they see in their peers, and in their peer's parents, and in adults in school and at church and so on. And all that sort of churns around for a while, but like as not, they come home to roost pretty much where you left them off. Something to think about before hitting the clicker on Oprah while muttering that you don't want to hear any more from that fat-assed liberal bytch...
We had sex education in 9th grade-------which is way too late IMHO.
I already had 'adult sized' equipment by my 14th birthday (as well as being over 6' tall) so had I had the opportunity of having sex; the probability of getting a girl my age pregnant was high.
Even back then (1971); I left that sex ed should have been taught in 7th grade---------tops. Admittedly; the kids would have been age 12-13; not age 10.
Kinda makes me ponder: Is this an objection about explicit heterosexual sex or a veiled objection to homosexual sex?
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Originally Posted by jabogitlu
rotflol. What kind of approved sexual education curriculum has included water sports??? I mean... that's... not even... like, penetration...
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Of course there are different stories for everyone, but can you honestly say that it's better for kids to be uninformed? Everyone will have sex eventually, and I'd like my kids to be well-prepared and educated when the time comes - just my opinion and philosophy, take it or leave it.
