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Old 01-28-2013, 08:29 AM
 
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Take NRDC articles with a grain of salt.
They have connections to Greenpeace, Gore and are big on the climate change bandwagon and have a revolving door with the EPA and Environmental Working Group and all those connections lead back to Fenton Communications.
True. Indeed, I take everything with a grain of salt. It has been my experience that such articles, both condemning such news and those praising such news, are slanted one way or the other. Hence, when someone posts a link stating 'how horrible' something is, it is usually wise to reflect on the source, and, if interested, to seek out other opinions. One man's trash is another man's treasure, if you will.
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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If a power plant is killing people,it needs to be killed.
BS! Name me verified death directly linked to anything from a coal fired power plant.........
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:33 AM
 
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There's a good chance there were a significant amount of union workers in those 3900 so there's a bright side for the right wingers.
I'm sure some of the 16 million new Americans collecting food stamps used to have union jobs too, but I'm not a liberal hack, who is driven by partisan politics to cast out common sense, rational thinking and compassion for their fellow man, just so Obama can be let off the hook.
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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BS! Name me verified death directly linked to anything from a coal fired power plant.........
TPTB have decided that wind and solar are our answers and everything else must be regulated and taxed to death with sometimes impossible guidelines to meet.

The way to force us on to solar/wind is to restrict/hinder/prevent expansion of existing power sources.
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:34 AM
 
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If a power plant is killing people,it needs to be killed.
Chicken Little (Henny Penny) crying, "The sky is falling!"
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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This is the problem, wind power, or solar are not “reliable base load power.” Obama's EPA is destroying baseload power, with nothing to replace it with.
They new wave of plant is intermediate load spark fired RICE designed to start fast enough to hold up the grid when the wond stops blowing! We're building 1 now and permiting the second. It will never replace baseload MISO and similer syetem controllers ( PJM, ERCOT etc.) are already planning for outages in the future.......
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:36 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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With the blessing of our Dear Marxist Leader...Better get used to the idea of EPA draconian energy polices!!!

Obama EPA kills power plant, 3,900 jobs in Texas | WashingtonExaminer.com

Not only do the CEO's who fund Fox news tell Fox viewers 100's of lies. The CEO's at Fox news also withhold the whole story from their viewers/followers.

These coal power plants kill 1,000's of Americans each year with their pollution.
And these coal power plants also give 10,000's of children Asthma each year.
10,000's of American children can't even go outside to play (because these coal plants gave them asthma so bad, they can't even breath.)


The CEO's who own these power plants give republicans huge amounts of campaign money. GW Bush recently did favors for these power plants, and changed laws so these power plants can pollute more.


But who does a republican (want) to fight for,

A.) Fight for greedy coal CEO's so they can pollute unregulated, and kill 1,000's of Americans each year, and make 10,000's of children so sick they can't breath.

B.) Fight for the rights of regular Americans and American children.

Answer: A.) Republicans always fight for greedy CEO's, and republicans could care less about anyone else.



The (immoral) CEO who owns that coal plant is so greedy, that he does not want to spend the money to make his power plant safe. He would rather destroy 1000's of US jobs, and keep more money in his bank account.
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:38 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Texas may be the first but won't be the last. They can't affordably meet the new strict EPA guidelines on new power plants.
I wonder how much is truth and how much whining blather? Is it they can't or don't want to?

It's exactly what the auro industry said when emission control standards were enacted yet here we are with engines better, cleaner, and longer lived than ever.
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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EPA was one of the more critical reasons to NOT vote for 0bama.

EPA should be dismantled and used as sewage treatment.
How dangerous would a power plant need to be in order for you to agree that it should be closed? Would kindergarteners need to be dropping dead in the streets before you would accept it's closing?

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“As we enter 2013, dirty proposals like the Las Brisas plant are lost at sea. Wind energy is the lowest cost way Texans make electricity. It creates jobs in west Texas and along our coast with no air pollution and no consumption of our vital water resources. The Las Brisas proposal was wrong for Corpus Christi, and it represents Texas’s past, not it’s future.” said Dr. Al Armendariz, Senior Campaign Representative with the Sierra Club.
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In July 2012, a district court reversed the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality’s decision to issue the power plant a Clean Air Act permit, and sent the permit back to the state agency for additional work because of problems related to sulfur dioxide, particulate matter, and other toxic emissions. In December 2012, a federal court ruled against Chase Power and Las Brisas in their attempt to stop national clean air safeguards on carbon emissions.
Las Brisas Power Plant Faces Biggest Hurdle Yet: Chase Power to Liquidate Assets | Sierra Club National
Apparently, all those judges are Marxists too.
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Not only do the CEO's who fund Fox news tell their viewers 100's of lies. The CEO's at Fox news also withhold the whole story from their viewers/followers.

These coal power plants kill 1,000's of Americans each year with their pollution.
And these coal power plants also give 10,000's of children Asthma each year.
10,000's of American children can't even go outside to play (because these coal plants gave them asthma so bad, they can't even breath.)


The CEO's who own these power plants give republicans huge amounts of campaign money. GW Bush recently did favors for these power plants, and changed laws so these power plants can pollute more.


But who does a republican (want) to fight for,

A.) Fight for greedy coal CEO's so they can pollute unregulated, and kill 1,000's of Americans each year, and make 10,000's of children so sick they can't breath.

B.) Fight for the rights of regular Americans and American children.

Answer: A.) Republicans always fight for greedy CEO's, and republicans could care less about anyone else.
All you are doing is regurgitating propaganda.

Do you know that Mexico and Central America burns their fields every year and that smoke comes to Texas ?
Do you know that the EPA holds Texas accountable for that pollution ?

So now those CEO's of coal companies are right up there with the other "greedy CEOs" ?

You just might change your tune when your lights start flickering because there's not enough power to satisfy the growing population in America.
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