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Old 02-01-2013, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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the average woker is mechanics making nearly 30/hr...teachers making 60k a yr...garbagemen making 40/hr

the AVERAGE truck mechanic in the UNITED STATES...makes 52k a year

the average national auto dealership mechanic, USA wide. makes 30/hr

NYC bus mechanics make 45/hr

average nassau county police officer makes 150k

municiple (nyc) garbageman.....75k a year

Neonatal Nurse, Average national Salary: $74,000

The average national salary for a typical Librarian in the United States is $57,831.

average national salary for a cemetary worker (grave digger)....49k

average national salary of a personal trainer....32/hr

average national salary for a massage therapist.....48k
According to this article, High Police Pay Fuels Nassau Squeeze - WSJ.com Nassau police earn $102,000 not $150,000.
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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According to this article, High Police Pay Fuels Nassau Squeeze - WSJ.com Nassau police earn $102,000 not $150,000.
a nassau police officer (regular PO , not a sergeant or a cpt) has a top pay after 6 years of 108k...the average PO makes 150k with basepay, overtime, and night dif

Nassau's median of $116,000 for a base is the highest in the country, Nassau's median with OT being just shy of $150,000 is also the highest in the nation, and as far as OT goes pretty much every dept has OT.




Newsday/Alan Raia | File photo of a Nassau County Police Department promotion and designation ceremony. (June 24, 2008)

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Nassau County police officers' salaries Nearly half of Nassau County's 2,400-member police force collected more than $150,000 last year, according to county records.

High overtime costs for some of the 1,103 active and retiring officers and large retirement packages for others helped boost earnings, statistics provided to Newsday by the county comptroller show.

The earnings revelations come at a time when the cost of public union contracts, particularly police pacts, has come under intense scrutiny as municipalities struggle to cope with recession-lowered revenues.

DATABASE: Nassau County Police Department top earners

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A state oversight board this week seized control of Nassau's finances in large part because County Executive Edward Mangano was unable to get millions of dollars in labor givebacks to balance his $2.6-billion budget.

Nassau's high pay is not sustainable, said E.J. McMahon, a senior fellow with the conservative Manhattan Institute. "That's the core of the problem."

The police pay statistics show:

690 officers topped $150,000 in base pay, overtime and other compensation, such as holiday pay and shift differential.

42 officers had base salaries that exceeded $150,000.

289 had overtime and base pay that added up to more than $150,000. Last year, two still-active police officers earned more than $100,000 apiece and 44 officers collected more than $50,000 in overtime.

At least 130 officers retired last year, many taking advantage of Mangano's temporary elimination of a cap that limited severance payouts. Three chiefs left with more than three-quarters of a million dollars each. About 20 other officers' total earnings exceeded their base pay, overtime and other compensation by at least $100,000 but it is unclear if they retired.



High base salaries

The earnings figures are from a list Nassau provided to Newsday of every police officer who took home at least $150,000 in salary, overtime, other compensation and severance in 2010.

Long Island's police are among the highest paid in the nation: base salaries average $116,361 in Nassau and $111,574 in Suffolk, before overtime, uniform allowance and other stipends are added. In Nassau alone, police department costs accounted for 27 percent of the total county budget in 2010.

In Suffolk County last year, 1,356 officers on a force of 2,576 collected more than $150,000, records show. Their earnings included a two-year retroactive contract payment and severance pay for officers who retired, said county officials.

Critics say mismanagement of the police department by Mangano, a Republican, allowed overtime to soar last year even as he lifted a cap on severance pay set by former Democratic County Executive Thomas Suozzi.

"It's ironic that Mangano claims that overtime is under control and that lifting Suozzi's cap on severance pay was a good thing. Both have cost the taxpayers tens of millions of dollars," said Legis. David Denenberg (D-Merrick).

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Nassau County police officers' salaries

Last name....First name......Department title.......Base earnings.......Overtime..............Shift differential........Holiday........Uniform allowance.........Total earnings

Milo.............. Mark A........POLICE OFFICER.........$77,696.97.........$46,464.10..... ....$12,116.23.....................$4,432.06...... .$0.00..........................$416,854.12


just one officer 77base plus 46 ot plus 12 night diff....that right there is 130k
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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WHERE are you getting these numbers? A link would be nice.
hmm

general maint worker.....median 49k

General Maintenance Worker III Salary - Salary.com


librarian 57k
Salary.com Salary Wizard- Do you know what you're worth?



most all the munbers came from salary.com

or you can google it yourself
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:16 PM
 
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the average woker is mechanics making nearly 30/hr...teachers making 60k a yr...garbagemen making 40/hr

the AVERAGE truck mechanic in the UNITED STATES...makes 52k a year

the average national auto dealership mechanic, USA wide. makes 30/hr

NYC bus mechanics make 45/hr

average nassau county police officer makes 150k

municiple (nyc) garbageman.....75k a year

Neonatal Nurse, Average national Salary: $74,000

The average national salary for a typical Librarian in the United States is $57,831.

average national salary for a cemetary worker (grave digger)....49k

average national salary of a personal trainer....32/hr

average national salary for a massage therapist.....48k
LMAO...$30 an hour for a dealership mechanic? Pure fantasy.

Gravedigger making 50k a year? On what planet?

Those numbers are ludicrous.

They might be credible in a place like NYC, but out here in the real world, garbagemen make about 40k a year, not 75k.

And deputy sheriffs in my county top out at about 50k. The damn sheriff himself doesn't even make 100k.
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:19 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Go on, can you articulate it without sounding like a prejudiced class warrior?
There is no way to say it without it sounding like a so-called class warrior. The facts are what they are.
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"The Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs at Princeton University released a study in late 2008 examining migration trends in New Jersey. The authors compared New Jersey to states that tend to attract low income individuals, while seeing a relative outflow (or much smaller inflow) of wealthy individuals. The study said Wisconsin is a good example, being one of the five states in the country with the most negative correlation between income and net migration. The list includes Wisconsin, Arizona, Delaware, North Dakota, and Arkansas.

...Why is Wisconsin so enticing to so many poor? University of Wisconsin-Madison economics professor provided an answer in his presentation to a Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis conference on the Midwest economy during June 2008. Kennan displayed graphs showing Wisconsin dishes out the highest welfare benefits in the Midwest. You thought we ended welfare as we know it? Time limits have been placed on benefits and there are more stringent work provisions. But the size of benefits remains generous.

Factor in other benefits like child care, BadgerCare, the earned income tax credit, and low income housing, and the incentives for low-income residents to flock to Wisconsin are quite evident. The term, “welfare magnet†may have disappeared for some time in Wisconsin, but this new data seems to suggest there could be an entirely new welfare migration taking place.

This migration is clearly putting a strain on our finances. Just how much it is costing in taxes is unclear but my guess is that it is substantial and needs further study.

Meanwhile, our wealthiest leave Wisconsin, taking with them their tax revenues, spending, savings, investments, and charitable contributions. To stop people from voting with their feet in Wisconsin, we must stop the hemorrhaging of taxing and spending."
http://legis.wisconsin.gov/senate/la...n+to+Wisconsin
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:30 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I'm for it under the condition described earlier. As long as government uses regulation to keep millions of Americans in rent slavery, renters are already paying a steep regulatory tax in the form of inflating rents.

My money is already being redistributed to homeowners (see Sowell), so off the bat I'm paying more than my fair share.
I already explained to you why that is. You rent. Rental property is a business. Liberals HATE businesses and do everything they can to tax them more.
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Garbage collectors, or sanitation engineers routinely make over $100K per year in places such as Seattle & NYC, and have been for several years.

Liberals have always had this mindset that people should be paid what they want as opposed to what the market-level wage is; their ludicrous war against Walmart in Chicago because Walmart won't pay their employees $11.00+ per hour is beyond asinine.

Liberals don't deal in reality; their loyalty to environmentalists and trial lawyers pretty much eviscerates the standard of living for the middle class from coast to coast, yet they never want to accept blame for the woes of Detroit, Flint, Buffalo, Cleveland, Illinois, California and other liberal-created hellholes which used to thrive until they came in and hijacked everything, starting with the local teachers union.

It takes 7-10 years for a mining company to get a permit to explore in the USA, yet people wonder why our manufacturing and mining industry has been decimated and why outsourcing is rampant in too many industries to count?

Start with that environmental extremist in the White House, toss in Governor Moonbeam and Al (the Seventy Million Dollar Man) Gore, and go from there.
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:48 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Liberals HATE businesses and do everything they can to tax them more.
I can't find any documentation or studies showing this.... is this opinion or fact?
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:51 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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The average hourly non-farm wage in the United States is $23.78. That equals to $49,462 per individual OR $98,924 per two worker household ANNUALLY!

There is absolutely NO REASON why the average worker in the United States cannot live off of these wages.

In fact, with these wages, and when personal responsibility is factored into the equation, there's absolutely no reason for single-parent families, children born out of wedlock, Medicaid, WIC, Welfare, or Food Stamps.

The AVERAGE worker makes $49,462 per year and yet we have liberals belly-aching over minimum wage and people barely able to make ends meet???? Who's fault is that?!

Get off your lazy asses and DO SOMETHING with your unproductive lives! There's money to be made out there!


Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the Current Employment Statistics survey (National) Home Page
Do you really believe that there are enough of those jobs to go around for everyone that wants to work? What kind of kool-aid are you drinking?
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:53 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I can't find any documentation or studies showing this.... is this opinion or fact?
Fact.
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"Obama plans to open talks using his most recent budget proposal, which sought to raise taxes on corporations and the wealthy by $1.6 trillion..."
Obama to open talks with $1.6 trillion plan to raise taxes on corporations - Washington Post
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