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{Originally Posted by BentBowThe entire ORIGINAL intent of the Constitution, was the chains on the Centralized Government.
It was not I the Government.... It is We The People.}
Let's put it this way. If we didn't live in a welfare nanny police state, where the treasury is liquidated and I can no longer defend and protect myself, I'd be for open borders.
Again, you come across as a radical anarchist to me.
In the forming of the Ron Paul grassroots organizing, that got labelled the tea party in 2006, we we anything but war mongers such as JFK LBJ, Reagan, Clinton Obama, both Bush's, McCain and Romney, were and are.
Read the bill of rights, in the spoken word of the day it was composed and get back to me.
Let's put this **** to bed right now.
When you talk about the "intent" of the founders, you make it clear you really don't understand anything about our history. There was no singular intent or philosophy held by the framers, except for creating some form of effective government. Most people know about the differences between the Federalists and the Anti-Federalists, but even within those two factions were many differing opinions and infighting.
Our Constitution is nothing more than the single best workable compromise that these framers felt could be enacted. To act like there was any single guiding direction from these framers (especially when you're singling out the one philosophy you personally subscribe to) is nonsense of the highest order.
Although not a church, Church was held in the house chambers for over a 120 years, from the beginning of this nation. Even before the Capitol as we know it was built. In Philadelphia, that had church in the capitol.
That proves nothing, even my old home town had church in the city hall, all new towns tended to do this. The point I was making is that the TP are merely fronting evangelical's crap and really have no political platform to run on other than Gays, Gunz, God and Abortion. Just look at the laws passed in 2010 and 2011 where they won state elections.
It is OK as even moderate theists reject the stance of the TP. Formed under the guise of taxed enough already was BS. Taxes did not rise and the real reason they formed was b/c horrors of horrors, a black man won the WHITE house. It brought the crazies out of the woodwork and because the GOP sided with these idiots, they signed their own death warrant.
Rove is forming a PAC to oppose the TP so even twits like him realise they made a huge mistake embracing the evangelicals. The GOP's own people are saying they are the party of stupid and we not in the USA see this clearly too.
Personally I think it is too little too late she cried.
Interestingly, all the objections (honest ones) I've seen from people who say they object to the TEA party, are either on matters they TEA party has nothing to do with (same-sex "marriage", sometimes misnamed "gay marriage"), or on stands the TEA party has not taken at all.
In other words, nobody has ANY objection to anything the TEA party has actually said or done.
That's quite a record. Clearly, the TEA party is doing a lot right.
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