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Old 02-08-2013, 07:08 PM
 
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one can make do with re-usable diapers.

and anyway, can you really buy these things with food stamps?

bare essentials yes, extras no.

what's so wrong with that?

if these women want so many kids, why don't they hook up with a more affluent man?
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:20 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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What do you consider government services?
It's YOUR assertion. You tell us :
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Typical bs math unrelated to the monstrously huge number of services and benefits the mega-rich get every second by living in the U.S., from the population of the U.S., and from the government.
What are the government services and benefits that the mega-rich get that no one else living in the U.S. gets?
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:27 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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It's YOUR assertion. You tell us :What are the government services and benefits that the mega-rich get that no one else living in the U.S. gets?
Putting aside semantics about what benefits and services are, I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to understand. Since you think so inwardly on such issues: The burger flipper that uses the road to get to his job, doesn't compare to the small business owner who relies on the roads for his workers to get to work, to move his product/service, to get his customer to his product/service. Or the doctor relies on the roads for his patients to get to his practice or the hospital is greater than the sum of each individual. Everything is intertwined, trickle down is a joke, and this country needs more demand to get the corporations of their ass and start spending the trillions in cash they are sitting on because they sure as hell aren't investing in R&D.
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Old 02-08-2013, 10:57 PM
 
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What are the government services and benefits that the mega-rich get that no one else living in the U.S. gets?

Here's one. Government makes certain investments unavailable to the masses.

Accredited Investors

The federal securities laws define the term accredited investor in Rule 501 of Regulation D as:


6. a natural person who has individual net worth, or joint net worth with the person’s spouse, that
exceeds $1 million at the time of the purchase, excluding the value of the primary residence of
such person;

7.
a natural person with income exceeding $200,000 in each of the two most recent years or joint income with a spouse exceeding $300,000 for those years and a reasonable expectation of the same income level in the current year
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:07 PM
 
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what kind of dinosaur still believes in 'trickle down' anyway?
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:10 PM
 
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What about what people have to pay for rent, particularly in Manhattan? You do realize there is a government net benefit for one and a net fee for the other?

Some people (like IC) disregard the net fees paid by renters, thereby rationalizing that (most of) these people aren't paying their fair share of taxes.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:13 PM
 
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if trickle down is so great, then why has unemployment gone up over the last few decades?
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:14 PM
 
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We don't know that. Property taxes are not like income taxes no matter what your income is you will pay taxes based on the valuation of your property.

In many states, property taxes are also based on whether or not the property is owner-occupied.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:22 PM
 
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dumb question here, but what if property values go down?

do you pay less tax, and what about capital 'gains' (can there be a capital loss, where you actually get money back?)
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Do you think that you could provide at least one unbiased link?
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