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Old 02-16-2013, 10:30 PM
 
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half of all min wage workers have Nothing to offer,skills,tools drivers licence,functioning brains,etc. but they all have smart phones,facebook,text all day, and lie
I had one job where everyone outside of management was paid within 25 cents of minimum wage.

I had a different job where everyone outside of management was paid minimum wage.

Surely you don't think every employee there had nothing to offer, do you?
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Old 02-16-2013, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Middle Earth
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I personally know many people I would never hire. We need to get things done on time and to standards,lazy just there for a paycheck types are never welcome and most job service employees are thieves looking for a mark. move up or move out.
Hard work is never guarantee that you will make more that is a fallacy. Not saying you should not work hard but it is a nice idea that if you work hard your employer will pay but many times not true.
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Old 02-16-2013, 10:35 PM
 
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Few Americans started out much beyond minimum wage; yet 1 in 37 make minimum now, so 36 of 37 did figure it out.

Get a government job or a union job and you're beyond minimum wage, that's a good chunk right there. Another chunk got Big Financial Aid to go to college and get a marketable degree, or even Big Financial Aid which allowed them to get a Work-Study job which in turn got them an entry level IT job beyond minimum wage. Put those two groups together and you're probably close to 18 of 37 right there.
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Old 02-16-2013, 10:45 PM
 
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Actually, the only people who are affected, are people like the guy who has been saving his money to accumulate the $14,000 he needs to buy a certain small four-seat new car. He's been saving his money, waiting to get those last few dollars.

But you just raised the minimum wage artificially, and as I described, prices rose too. And the guy who had enough money to buy that $14,000 car, suddenly finds the same car now costs $16,000... and he can't buy it. Because, though wages and prices both went up, the amount he had in the bank did not.

He is the only one affected by your "generous" minimum-wage increase.

For some reason, conservatives generally fail to acknowledge that housing rents are artificially raised by government through restrictive zoning and housing regulations (Thomas Sowell is brilliant AND intellectually honest and he gets it).

What does US minimum wage have to do with the price of a foreign car?
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Old 02-16-2013, 10:58 PM
 
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Lol... so this is how you understand economics. B/c people earn more, they get charged more? So a $1.49 bag of chips in Brooklyn costs... $14.99 in the Hamptons b/c people can afford to pay more?

I bet speeding tickets cost more in the Hamptons. The Town of Southampton covers a lot of territory and every weekend their cops are all over the freeway writing lots of tickets. (In NYS, a Town is a specific local unit of government distinct from a City and can be larger than a congressional district - on Long Island, Hempstead, Oyster Bay, and Southampton are absurdly large Towns which are much larger than their namesake cities.)
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Old 02-16-2013, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Few Americans started out much beyond minimum wage; yet 1 in 37 make minimum now, so 36 of 37 did figure it out.
There's a logic problem there. First of all, many Americans start out well beyond minimum wage. As much as the anti-college people want you to believe otherwise, most college grads start out making substantially more than minimum wage. My daughter started at $10/hr 3 1/2 years ago, at a day care center as a child care provider. There are plenty of $10-$12/hr jobs out there.
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Old 02-16-2013, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Reality FAIL. Half of all minimum wage workers today are 25 or older.
reality fail


76% are 25 or under...or over 65
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Old 02-16-2013, 11:05 PM
 
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He set his sights high maybe ? Form a corporation and issue stock is the only way the SEC will get involved as the SEC regulates the stock market.

Let's say I want to open a burger joint with $500 from each of 1,000 people. Explain how that's done without the SEC getting involved.
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Old 02-16-2013, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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That is good but you being able to do it does not prove everyone else can. Not everyone else may be as smart or well brought up as you. How do you know they are not trying unless you personally know them?
you are correct I dont know everyone...and I dont pretend to


but the guy posting...he admits he is 50, works are a deli, and some off the book work (stealing from the government)...and admits that '''poor he, never has a chance'''

he has also admitted he is on the road to collecting a 2/3 pension in the form of SS


most people who have been on here for a while, understand this guy is just a complainer, who FAILS TO TRY
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Old 02-16-2013, 11:17 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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What do you think will replace fast food jobs that are lost?
I doubt very many will be lost. Most fast food employees probably aren't that far off from $9/hour already, and many are above that. In some places they're probably almost all above that. Fast food places are usually pretty good on managing labor already.

There probably aren't many hours they can realistically cut, let alone jobs. If anything the employees they already have might lose a few hours a week, which for the macro economy would probably be offset by increased purchasing power of the ones below $9/hour.

If you have 4 people running a McDonalds on a Wednesday night, one making $7.85, one making $8.60, one making $9.50, and another making $10.00, each working a 6 hour shift, increasing the bottom 2 to $9/hour is going to cost you a whopping $9.30 extra plus taxes. As a percentage of say, $2,500 in sales, that's not much.
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