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Old 02-27-2013, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Florida
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ok, so the dow is up, how is gold doing?
This is really about the housing, and not so much about the stock market. Many things affect the stock market.

 
Old 02-27-2013, 06:16 PM
 
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This is really about the housing, and not so much about the stock market. Many things affect the stock market.
I thought housing derivatives were traded on the market, just like stocks.

Isn't that how it all crashed???
 
Old 02-27-2013, 06:18 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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This is really about the housing, and not so much about the stock market. Many things affect the stock market.


well, the dow being up 200 points was also mentioned in the OP's opening post.
 
Old 02-27-2013, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Florida
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According to First Financial Services, Inc. (a Charlotte-based mortgage brokerage firm),government loans (which include FHA, VA, USDA-RD, FNMA and FHLMC loans)account for over 80 percent of mortgages currently being originated in the marketplace.FFSI reports the following current loan terms for FNMA mortgages (which make up the majority of government loans. Favorable loan terms for government mortgages tend to inflate market values. This is because borrowers, with a specified monthly income, can borrow more using favorable government financing than with conventional financing.Consider the following example. Assume that Buyer A earns $5,000 per month and is pre-qualified for up to a $1,600 monthly payment (PITI / Monthly Income = 32 percent). Buyer A begins looking for a home but does not desire to pay more than $1,500 per month for his/her new home. The buyer finds a home in which he/she is interested and makes a $271,000 offer. As the accompanying table illustrates, this is the maximum offer that Buyer A can make with conventional market rate financing (assuming propertyt axes of 1.00 percent of value and insurance of $50 per month). Buyer B, who earns $5,000 per month, is also willing to pay up to $1,500 per month for the same property. Buyer B learns about the favorable FNMA interest rates and offers$297,500 for the home. As the accompanying table illustrates, Buyer B is able to purchase the property for 9 percent more than buyer A because of the favorable financing terms under the FNMA program.
This competitive situation is played out thousands of times each day throughout the United States, propping up home values and resulting in government loans representingt he overwhelming majority of mortgages being originated in the marketplace.
Government's reach into mortgage markets is not limited to just FNMA mortgages,however. Indeed, the US Treasury recently purchased $1.2 trillion of mortgage-backed securities, injecting public-sector funds into the private sector. Here's a couple links to articles regarding this:


Fed Plan to Stop Buying Mortgages Feeds Recovery Worries - WSJ.com
Fed Pulls The Plug On Mortgage Purchases : NPR

The full analysis can be found if you follow the following link:

Effect of Government Intervention in Real Estate Markets



Your link is three years old.
 
Old 02-27-2013, 06:20 PM
 
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I thought housing derivatives were traded on the market, just like stocks.

Isn't that how it all crashed???
They are not part of DOW, if thats what you mean.
 
Old 02-27-2013, 06:23 PM
 
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This is really about the housing, and not so much about the stock market. Many things affect the stock market.
Yes, like elections, fear, panic, central banks, and manipulation.
 
Old 02-27-2013, 06:24 PM
 
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well, the dow being up 200 points was also mentioned in the OP's opening post.
Thats how the markets reacted to the housing data, but tomorrow they can react to something else
 
Old 02-27-2013, 06:24 PM
 
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They are not part of DOW, if thats what you mean.

Because the DOW is everything!
 
Old 02-27-2013, 06:26 PM
 
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Because the DOW is everything!
DOW is a short list of stocks.
 
Old 02-27-2013, 06:26 PM
 
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Your link is three years old.

Yes, the current percentage is 92.
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