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Old 03-29-2013, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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BTW....I thought you lefties LIKED the muslims?
Why is that myth always thrown out there? I've never seen a 'leftie' defend Islam. I've seen some defend their right to worship in America, but not defend the religion itself.

Me personally, I think all religions are equally silly. If it makes you feel any better, Muslin fundamentalists are worse than Christian fundamentalists. Congrats, throw a parade. But I also think they are equally allowed to be practiced in the US.
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Old 03-29-2013, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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I'd highly suggest learning their real definitions, not the fox news version.
lols. You should look at your definitions of Republicans before telling anyone else what they should use a guides.

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Old 03-29-2013, 02:13 PM
 
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this is not Tea Party, conservatism or anything even similar..This is sick believes that most people find appalling..To even compare this with GOP conservatism is stretching and hateful.Thank God most people are not stupid enough to associate the right wingers with that type of government.
Jihad and the american hard right teabaggers are more similar than you think.

Radical Muslim nations rule by their religious book to force their views on the people, just like the teabaggers.

Radical Muslims hate gays, just like the teabaggers.

Radical Muslims think women are 2nd class citizens that should be controlled, just like the teabaggers.

Radical Muslims think we should have next to, or no gun laws, just like the teabaggers.

Radical Muslims think war and violence is the answer to everything, just like the teabaggers.

Radical Muslims think a handful of elitist should live like kings, where the rest of the nation lives in poverty, just like the teabaggers.

Radical Muslims think their way is the only way, and everyone else that doesn't goosestep in line is some kind of sinister enemy, just like the teabaggers.
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Old 03-29-2013, 02:14 PM
 
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I'd highly suggest learning their real definitions, not the fox news version.
Left-Wing vs Right-Wing

Left wingers believe that governments are a force for social justice and change, and so should intervene in individual’s lives to ensure social justice is achieved. Right wingers believe that governments are big and unwieldy and so should not interfere with people’s lives at all. They believe that government interference contravenes an individual’s right to liberty.

CLEARLY LEFT WING so stop embarassing yourself
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Old 03-29-2013, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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Jihad and the american hard right teabaggers are more similar than you think.

Radical Muslim nations rule by their religious book to force their views on the people, just like the teabaggers.

Radical Muslims hate gays, just like the teabaggers.

Radical Muslims think women are 2nd class citizens that should be controlled, just like the teabaggers.

Radical Muslims think we should have next to, or no gun laws, just like the teabaggers.

Radical Muslims think war and violence is the answer to everything, just like the teabaggers.

Radical Muslims think a handful of elitist should live like kings, where the rest of the nation lives in poverty, just like the teabaggers.

Radical Muslims think their way is the only way, and everyone else that doesn't goosestep in line is some kind of sinister enemy, just like the teabaggers.
Stop watching MSNBC and think for yourself.
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Old 03-29-2013, 02:18 PM
 
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Stop watching MSNBC and think for yourself.
If they ever did that, we wouldnt be able to laugh at them so often
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Old 03-29-2013, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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They control virtually everything that goes on in the country. And government programs are not "private charity" they are the exact opposite.

I'm not saying Democrats in the U.S. are anything like the Saudis, but the Saudi government is clearly left.
No. Not by any common definition of left vs right. On the political spectrum, left vs right socially has recently been libertarian/liberal vs conservative. If I need to define those terms further, liberal (in the social sense) means less intrusion. In other words, legalize drugs, gay marriage, etc. Conservative means enforce values and morals.

Left vs right economically means left= more social programs, higher taxes, more regulation, right= less programs, lower taxes, less regulation.

It's quite obvious Saudi Arabia falls to the right in both metrics. It may have a left tendency here or there economically (I don't know), but on the whole it leans right.

Hope I cleared that up for you.
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Old 03-29-2013, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Florida
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They control virtually everything that goes on in the country. And government programs are not "private charity" they are the exact opposite.

I'm not saying Democrats in the U.S. are anything like the Saudis, but the Saudi government is clearly left.
Yes, they are government programs, and in that sense they are 'left', but the programs are not funded by the tax payer, which is typically the trademark of the 'left', so in that sense SA is not left. There is a difference between monarchy and socialism, although countries like Holland are both, but then again Holland does fund their government programs through taxation. Saudi Arabia is neither capitalist, nor socialist, and yet it is both.
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Old 03-29-2013, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I define leftist governments as big and powerful entities that rule, or try to, every aspect of her denizens lives.

And righties as people that support a small central government.

You can label NAZI Germany anything you want but it was clearly a large, powerful government, which would make it leftist.

If you read articles from the late 1930 and early 1940s by Europeans you will see they defined Germany as leftist also.

These people trying to Saudi Arabia is somehow right-wing are crazy.

And I don't like any political parties. Not a conservative either.
So, a large military makes a country leftist? Then the US right wing is leftist.
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Old 03-29-2013, 02:25 PM
 
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Yes, they are government programs, and in that sense they are 'left', but the programs are not funded by the tax payer, which is typically the trademark of the 'left', so in that sense SA is not left. There is a difference between monarchy and socialism, although countries like Holland are both, but then again Holland does fund their government programs through taxation. Saudi Arabia is neither capitalist, nor socialist, and yet it is both.
Yes they are funded by the taxpayer

Health care in Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The health care system in Saudi Arabia can be classified as a national health care system in which the government provides health care services through a number of government agencies.

Ever ask yourself how you could be wrong so often?
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