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And NYC schools have been giving it out since 2011 to children as young as 14.
NYC has an automatic opt in program and the parents have to opt out their kids.
I don't like subsidizing teen pregnancy, or adult pregnancy for that matter, any more than you do.
But, since we live the the United States, don't expect society to allow children to beg in the streets or starve just because their parents are fools.
So anything we subsidize will continue to grow pills or no pills.
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Sex education, easy access to birth control and MAP are going to reduce teen pregnancies.....your plan is just going to continue the status quo.
We had none of those when we were younger (we both have agreed to that) and yet we did not have these problems. Yes, we had 17-18 year olds getting pregnant and getting married but we did not have 14-15-16 year olds getting pregnant.
I'm not against those things in general but they are not the answer.
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That is why I just don't understand people like you. Why cut off your nose to spite your face?
Do you want less teen pregnancies or not?
More so than you it would seem.
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And, if, as a parent, you want total control......how about you financially support your teen if they do end up pregnant.....no food stamps.....no welfare.....YOU take responsibility and pay for that grandchild until and if your your teens are able to support them on their own.....without taxpayer money. And that means until your grandchild is 18 if necessary.
It should be that way.
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I am tired of parents whining about government interference while at the same time taking their kid down to sign up for government benefits.
This is a generalization based upon nothing outside of your preconceived notions.
So anything we subsidize will continue to grow pills or no pills.
We had none of those when we were younger (we both have agreed to that) and yet we did not have these problems. Yes, we had 17-18 year olds getting pregnant and getting married but we did not have 14-15-16 year olds getting pregnant.
I'm not against those things in general but they are not the answer.
More so than you it would seem.
It should be that way.
This is a generalization based upon nothing outside of your preconceived notions.
What is your answer? Other than wishing and hoping the "good old days" will come back? We have to deal with the here and now.
Generalization? Do teen moms go on welfare or don't they? Isn't that what you are complaining about?
What is your answer? Other than wishing and hoping the "good old days" will come back? We have to deal with the here and now.
The first thing we should do is make the idea of teen pregnancy as something bad again. I have no false idea that will ever happen though so we will continue to subsidize it and it will continue to grow.
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Generalization? Do teen moms go on welfare or don't they? Isn't that what you are complaining about?
Am I also not arguing that we should quit subsidizing it?
Wow, this thread really grew since I went to work this morning. Now I'm home, and I stopped trying to multi-quote a while back. However, I do have a few things to say.
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Those 3 items..education, birth control and morning after pill have been available for years and has not significantly reduced teen pregnancies.
You're acting as if this is just being initiated this year or something.
Plan B has been available since 2006.
This is totally untrue. The teen pregnancy rate is at its lowest ever.
And NYC schools have been giving it out since 2011 to children as young as 14.
NYC has an automatic opt in program and the parents have to opt out their kids.
It has only been OTC at 17+ for a short time. You're sounding like a broken record with this NYC schools stuff. We get it.
The first thing we should do is make the idea of teen pregnancy as something bad again. I have no false idea that will ever happen though so we will continue to subsidize it and it will continue to grow.
Am I also not arguing that we should quit subsidizing it?
I agree with you about that. Teen moms and dads should be portrayed as losers, PC or not, as far as I am concerned.
Not subsidizing teen pregnancy is never going to happen.....so we have to concentrate on doing everything we can to prevent it.....it's the only viable avenue we have.
Wow, this thread really grew since I went to work this morning. Now I'm home, and I stopped trying to multi-quote a while back. However, I do have a few things to say.
This is totally untrue. The teen pregnancy rate is at its lowest ever.
That's really not the problem. A woman getting pregnant at 19 is certainly not the problem a teen getting pregnant at 15 is.
We should also note, that is not saying anything about the number of pregnancies but rather the birth rate.
What a way to twist a positive statistic. Of course the teen pregnancy rate is a problem! The vast, vast, vast majority of these young ladies aren't married, meaning they will be on welfare. Only a small number of them are high school graduates, and more than 50% will not have graduated from high school by age 22.
I don't feel like searching all day through Google for the stats, but I do know the pregnancy rate as well as the birth rate has gone down. The teen abortion rate has dropped too.
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