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It is not just you, because about 300 other people would have to die with you. The society cannot sacrifice that many innocent lives just to appease your sensitivities.
I wasn't asked about 300 other people (don't know where you got that silly arbitrary number from...but whatever). I was asked about my own view, and i gave it. Case closed.
I was born a free American, and i want to die with the same damn freedoms i was born with and i don't want a single one of those freedoms molested or curtailed even the tiniest bit in exchange for security.
As freely as i can move in and out of their countries.
My position on immigration is come here if you have something to offer and you're willing to live by our laws and culture. I don't care about your race, religion, language, or anything else.
Okay, how do you determine if they can offer anything? Am I wrong to assume you are opposed to ANY searches at airports to include ID checks? Do you think an extremist would be more likely to board an aircraft full of western people if these unlawful and liberty threatening ID checks did not occur? How would you determine if someone is legally entering the country if you are unable to search a US citizen under any circumstances other than probable cause?
Faisal Shahzad, who was convicted of planting a car bomb in Times Square, New York City,[23][24] was arrested after he had boarded Emirates Flight 202 to Dubai. He had been placed on the No Fly List earlier in the day.[25] The airline did not check the No Fly List for added names when Shahzad made his reservation that evening, when he later purchased the ticket,[25] or when he was allowed to board the plane. Only after a routine post-boarding check revealed that he was on the No Fly List[25] did agents board the plane and arrest him.[25]
As freely as i can move in and out of their countries.
My position on immigration is come here if you have something to offer and you're willing to live by our laws and culture. I don't care about your race, religion, language, or anything else.
Exactly. We would be expected to do the same if we were to relocate to another country. And I'm good with that. Their country, their rules. Having said that, the same goes here. Don't like the culture, don't like the rules, and refuse to assimilate, then go back where you came from!
So Muslims and non-whites are the only people worthy of checking for nefarious intent? Do you not understand how prejudicial your comments come off as?
Most terrorism is done by Muslims. If elderly white women were the top terrorist group I would say they should be the ones profiled.
you argument is moot for a few reasons, not the least of which is that flying is a privilege not a right. the fourth amendment against unreasonable search and seizures was to prevent law enforcement from being able to walk into you home at anytime they wish and search your property. not stop them from searching you to prevent you from carrying contraband onto an airplane. when you buy that airline ticket, you agree to follow the rules set down by the airlines and the government.
Does the government run the airlines? That is news to me.
Okay, how do you determine if they can offer anything? Am I wrong to assume you are opposed to ANY searches at airports to include ID checks? Do you think an extremist would be more likely to board an aircraft full of western people if these unlawful and liberty threatening ID checks did not occur? How would you determine if someone is legally entering the country if you are unable to search a US citizen under any circumstances other than probable cause?
I find the ID check to be the most objectionable. Once I've been determined not to possess dangerous items, why does the government need to know who the hell I am and where I'm going?
Okay, how do you determine if they can offer anything?
Are they going to be relying on welfare or contributing to society? There is a significant difference between a DR or engineer and someone with a 4th grade education that has no skills.
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Originally Posted by billydaman
How would you determine if someone is legally entering the country if you are unable to search a US citizen under any circumstances other than probable cause?
What does searching and verifying the status of someone already in the country have to do with searching and verifying the status of someone entering the country. When I go to Mexico or Canada I have to show a passport and to get back in I have to show a passport. If I'm walking down the street I'm not going to show my ID to anyone.
Okay, how do you determine if they can offer anything? Am I wrong to assume you are opposed to ANY searches at airports to include ID checks? Do you think an extremist would be more likely to board an aircraft full of western people if these unlawful and liberty threatening ID checks did not occur? How would you determine if someone is legally entering the country if you are unable to search a US citizen under any circumstances other than probable cause?
I think we can put you on the record for choosing to give up a constitutional freedom for safety.
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