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Old 05-08-2013, 02:20 PM
 
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1. Were the officers "incompetent" or was their management (higher level officers) derelict in their duty as far as ensuring that these officers were properly trained?

2. Have we done anything to address what caused the problem, or are we just throwing low level personel under the bus?

3. How high does the responsibilty go?

And how in the world can such idiocy exist that would attempt to make Pres. Obama responsible for these Officer's inability to maintain their unit's readiness.
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Old 05-08-2013, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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I don't know about "right wing extremists", but as a relatively independant person, I do. I have to question what kind of failures of leadership have lead to the decay in readiness of our strategic nuclear forces. Based on what is reported, I would have to say that military leadership has failed to do their job. And the leader of the US military is???
So identifying and acting to fix a problem is bad leadership?

Only in the fever swamps of RWNJ toolery.
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Old 05-08-2013, 03:02 PM
 
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So identifying and acting to fix a problem is bad leadership?

Only in the fever swamps of RWNJ toolery.
I know. I can't figure it out. These people were found to be incompetent so they were demoted. And the right wing blames Obama. What kind of effed up universe do those people live in?
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Old 05-08-2013, 03:08 PM
 
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They were probably asked if they would launch on a US city and when they replied no were sent packing.
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Old 05-08-2013, 03:13 PM
 
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I don't understand the thread. What am I supposed to do? Should Obama reinstate them?
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Old 05-08-2013, 03:15 PM
 
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They were probably asked if they would launch on a US city and when they replied no were sent packing.
Oh of course! That makes so much sense! Thanks for clearing that up.
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Old 05-08-2013, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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And how in the world can such idiocy exist that would attempt to make Pres. Obama responsible for these Officer's inability to maintain their unit's readiness.

So, in Obamabot land, the head of the US military bears no responsibility of the performance of those under his command? Let me guess, it's Bush's fault, right?
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Old 05-08-2013, 03:52 PM
 
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Commander in chief: 2009 to present.

Top of the chain.
Cant follow along? I said when they were elected.
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We elected one to the White House, do you really want an answer to that?
Try again.
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Old 05-08-2013, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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Of course Obama bears responsibility. And that responsibility is given to those in the chain-of-command to carry out the policies.

Do you really expect Obama (or any other president) to spend time reviewing profiles of all the members of the military all around the world assessing their capabilities and abilities? Of course not. Only an idiot would.
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Old 05-08-2013, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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So, in Obamabot land, the head of the US military bears no responsibility of the performance of those under his command?
Of course he does; that's why he relieved these people of their responsibilities, which the Obama-hate gang is bitching about.

I haven't seen such blatant dishonesty and hypocrisy since Obama let the tea party bully him into attacking Libya, and immediately plunged a knife into his back.
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