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I've noticed that at least in Maryland, the Democrats have consists of 3 major groups - the liberal yuppie elite (the Starbucks, Prius, Whole Foods, coffeeshop hipster crowd), ghetto people, and illegal immigrants. A lot of the Democrat votes come from rich urban areas and a few wealthy suburbs with a of of New York transplants. If you go into the ghetto you also see wild support for Obama, the kind of people who wear shirts saying "keep the White House black" and talking about how great is it to have a black man in the White House. But its the rich white liberals who are okay with things like rain taxes, wind farm taxes, giving in-state tuition to illegals, etc who are also pushing for abortion and gay marriage very passionately. It seems even though they might not agree with all the taxes, they are willing to pay them as a trade off to support abortion and gay marriage. Because I don't know how anyone in their right mind can actually support a gas tax increase that goes exclusively to fund mass transit in the city, or how anyone in their right mind can support a rain tax and wind farm tax, or be okay with increasing the alcohol tax, cigarette tax, and income tax. With nanny state laws like gun control, plastic bags, and soda bans you get support from the liberal elite AND the ghetto Democrats.
However most of the blue collar and middle class whites are conservative and Republican, not just on the federal but on the state and local level as well. However when it comes to blacks I've noticed when I see a black conservative its usually a middle class or upper class black person. Usually someone who has become financially successful and no longer buys into the victimhood mentality, but who also was raised right in church and has conservative social values. With Hispanics I don't know but I assume the better off Hispanics are the ones that are more assimilated, who came legally and have fewer connections to illegal aliens though I'm sure SOME still vote Democrat out of racial solidarity with illegal aliens. I personally and of Asian descent and am Republican for financial and religious reasons both.
what type of data do you have to back up your claim? I personally know many upper middle and wealthy blacks that vote Democrat...
You're premise is wrong, richer whites aren't more liberal, at least in the sense of likely to vote Democratic, though they're often more socially liberal. Here's a graph of white vote by income and education:
Those low income college degrees are probably predominately teachers and social workers. Not really surprised they have such low percentages voting Republican.
In my state (MA) rich whites become liberal because they live above the consequences of their viewpoints. It's easy to despise Walmart when you are rich. It's easy to mandate school desegregation (socioeconomically as well as racially) when your kids go to a lily white private school.
Pretty much spot on. Rich people are not racist. Most of them are just snobs.
For better off whites, politics is largely about demontrating their elite status by separating themselves from the hordes of middle class whites they compete against. Since they don't have the numbers to win at the ballot box by themselves, they form coalitions with poor minorities who don't live in their areas and are no competition for them in schools or in the workplace. It's the top and the bottom united against the middle.
I've noticed that at least in Maryland, the Democrats have consists of 3 major groups - the liberal yuppie elite (the Starbucks, Prius, Whole Foods, coffeeshop hipster crowd), ghetto people, and illegal immigrants. A lot of the Democrat votes come from rich urban areas and a few wealthy suburbs with a of of New York transplants. If you go into the ghetto you also see wild support for Obama, the kind of people who wear shirts saying "keep the White House black" and talking about how great is it to have a black man in the White House. But its the rich white liberals who are okay with things like rain taxes, wind farm taxes, giving in-state tuition to illegals, etc who are also pushing for abortion and gay marriage very passionately. It seems even though they might not agree with all the taxes, they are willing to pay them as a trade off to support abortion and gay marriage. Because I don't know how anyone in their right mind can actually support a gas tax increase that goes exclusively to fund mass transit in the city, or how anyone in their right mind can support a rain tax and wind farm tax, or be okay with increasing the alcohol tax, cigarette tax, and income tax. With nanny state laws like gun control, plastic bags, and soda bans you get support from the liberal elite AND the ghetto Democrats.
However most of the blue collar and middle class whites are conservative and Republican, not just on the federal but on the state and local level as well. However when it comes to blacks I've noticed when I see a black conservative its usually a middle class or upper class black person. Usually someone who has become financially successful and no longer buys into the victimhood mentality, but who also was raised right in church and has conservative social values. With Hispanics I don't know but I assume the better off Hispanics are the ones that are more assimilated, who came legally and have fewer connections to illegal aliens though I'm sure SOME still vote Democrat out of racial solidarity with illegal aliens. I personally and of Asian descent and am Republican for financial and religious reasons both.
There is discussion of middle class Whites, rich Whites, poor Whites, southern Whites, poor Blacks, and to a lesser extent, rich Blacks and voting. However, no one has discussed middle class Blacks and working class Blacks. Most Blacks who vote Democrat are not lazy and expecting handouts. However, when it comes to Blacks and voting Democrat, the very worst stereotypes of Blacks are brought up, such as the "hood rat", "welfare queen", and the "criminal". No one is asking why working class Blacks and middle class Blacks vote Democrat. No one asks why even among rich Blacks, there are still those who vote for Democrats.
It isn't rich whites as such who are liberal or moderate Democrats; it's highly educated whites. The two categories overlap but are not the same.
The uneducated dregs of society who have white skin support the GOP partly as a means of expressing contempt for other races (and other disfavored people). The uneducated dregs of society who have black skin and support the Democrats do so for similar reasons.
Nice! So, someone who didn't go to college for whatever reason is a dreg of society? Okay...
I don't see where rich whites or blacks thru their effort to influence legislation are liberals. Only a fool would look at their lobbying effort and believe that. same can be said of unions and farmers when looking at influence they have to their own benefit. Don't believe ;follow the money. its kind of like believing Hollywoods billionaires want to be taxed more ;when they want more a slice of the federal budget pie for their benefit.Just look ;its not hard to find. Liberals seem to think socially allowing them to do whatever turns them on is going to enrich them. The rich get richer and the fools get poorer.
In my state (MA) rich whites become liberal because they live above the consequences of their viewpoints. It's easy to despise Walmart when you are rich. It's easy to mandate school desegregation (socioeconomically as well as racially) when your kids go to a lily white private school.
??? How do these liberals rationalize their hypocrisy? What do they say to poor parents? Vote with your feet?
In my state (MA) rich whites become liberal because they live above the consequences of their viewpoints. It's easy to despise Walmart when you are rich. It's easy to mandate school desegregation (socioeconomically as well as racially) when your kids go to a lily white private school.
Yes I have lived in six different states, and this has been my exact experience also.
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I have lived in six different states, and this has been my exact experience also.