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Old 06-17-2013, 01:30 PM
 
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Believe me, there have been several topics on SNAP benefits, and many of the RWNJs all claim to have seen people buy luxurious food with SNAP benefits, as if SNAP is some kind of bottomless pit
You should talk to my cousin the social worker.

People spend their aid on all kinds of stuff while not providing their kids with enough to eat......sigh.

However to be fair, that's a small portion of recipients and any program is going to have some abuse.
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Old 06-17-2013, 01:49 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Urban?

You think there's more "urban" single moms than rural ones? How much money do you wanna put on that?
No kidding.

I live in a very rural area and my three youngest sons have graduated from a very small high school - my youngest just graduated this past Friday and there were only 49 graduating seniors in his class.

This is the first year in, I believe, five or so that there haven't been at least two pregnant senior girls; one or two of the years, there were three.

In fact, twice in the last five years, the Valedictorians were pregnant at graduation.

I am personally familiar with only one of the girls (one of the Valedictorians, whose father is a teacher at the high school and whose boyfriend was the star cross country runner and whose mother is a math and science teacher in another school district) and they did marry and went on to have a second baby pretty quickly. I have no idea if any of the other girls went on to marry the fathers of their babies.

So, no, it is NOT just an "urban" dilemma.
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Old 06-17-2013, 01:51 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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You're forgetting about the WIC coupons and the free meals at the public schools and head start centers.

There is much duplication of handouts. What happens is that since the mothers sell the foodstamps or buy food for their current boyfriend, the taxpayers have to provide at least 2 free meals at schools and head start center. Plus WIC provides the real food since food stamp cards can be used to buy nothing but junk food if not sold for beer and cigarette or other money.
So, if the mothers misuse their EBT allocation, the children should suffer by having to go hungry?
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Old 06-17-2013, 01:53 PM
 
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So, if the mothers misuse their EBT allocation, the children should suffer by having to go hungry?
No. You should have to pay for it since you care so much.
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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Your premise is absolutely wrong.
I never had any desire to breed, nor do many people that I know.

Neither birth control nor education are readily available in the US.
Why do people say stuff like this? I see condoms all over the place. I bought them as a minor while attending 12 years of Catholic schooling. My university--UW-Milwaukee--has them for sell in one of the men's bathroom in the Union hall. Geez.

I also was taught sex education in Catholic grade school.

You telling me no one in American public schools learns about how babies are born through male-on-female sex? Maybe the secular city governments needs to turn over education to the Catholics then. You'll actually learn to be both literate and know that ejaculating into a girl can possibly result in her getting pregnant.

Furthermore, what's the deal in this video with this poor a___ black African school and the Black-American mother that moved to Ghana saying American culture is too sexualized and violent? Shouldn't all the black African girls be pregnant with no "babies daddy" around?

Quite as kept condoms in the U.S. are no more mysterious "non-readily available" then food like meat, butter, and milk. You often can get them at the same f___ place. Or do we have starving people in the U.S. unsure of were to access food from?


African Americans Repatriate to Ghana (part 2) - YouTube
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:16 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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No. You should have to pay for it since you care so much.
I raised my three youngest sons as a single parent. My now ex-husband walked out on the family when our baby was four months for someone he met on the internet. That "baby" turned eighteen a week and a half ago.

At one point, it became necessary to go on food stamps (for a year). Although it's likely, even with working, that I qualified beyond that, I only received them for a year (by choice).

But I never received any other benefits, working two jobs, and briefly three, at a time.

However, my income was still low enough that my kids qualified for free breakfasts and lunches at school. That was a HUGE help to me. And I was grateful for the help.

And for the record, being raised by a single mom hasn't damaged my three youngest boys too badly - they are all doing awesomely. My youngest graduated with honors on Friday; this morning, he started his first job......with the school district as their "network specialist," a job he applied for and interviewed for and got, beating out six other applicants, two of them with college degrees and actual work experience. He does plan on furthering his education at a later time; in the meantime, this was a huge accomplishment for a kid who just turned eighteen. In fact, the school superintendent came up to him after the graduation ceremony, shook his hand, and said that was the first time he ever watched a staff member graduate high school.

His brothers are also doing well, despite having been raised by a single mom - one of them, at the age of 22, having just bought his first home.
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:30 PM
 
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Believe me, there have been several topics on SNAP benefits, and many of the RWNJs all claim to have seen people buy luxurious food with SNAP benefits, as if SNAP is some kind of bottomless pit
And many of the LWNJ's would deflect and say that there is no abuse by those who are poor and that the rich are stealing everything......

Oh, and another nice deflection from the left who can't seem to grasp the thread title..... it has been shown that single parent raised kids have much worse outcomes overall than those raised in 2 parent households contrary to what the LWNJ's on here mistakenly believe

Accept the fact that your side got owned here and move on to a topic you can win on .... like some reality tv show you watched last night
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:51 PM
 
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Why do people say stuff like this? I see condoms all over the place. I bought them as a minor while attending 12 years of Catholic schooling. My university--UW-Milwaukee--has them for sell in one of the men's bathroom in the Union hall. Geez.

I also was taught sex education in Catholic grade school.

You telling me no one in American public schools learns about how babies are born through male-on-female sex? Maybe the secular city governments needs to turn over education to the Catholics then. You'll actually learn to be both literate and know that ejaculating into a girl can possibly result in her getting pregnant.

Furthermore, what's the deal in this video with this poor a___ black African school and the Black-American mother that moved to Ghana saying American culture is too sexualized and violent? Shouldn't all the black African girls be pregnant with no "babies daddy" around?

Quite as kept condoms in the U.S. are no more mysterious "non-readily available" then food like meat, butter, and milk. You often can get them at the same f___ place. Or do we have starving people in the U.S. unsure of were to access food from?


African Americans Repatriate to Ghana (part 2) - YouTube
I know it's hard to grasp - not being at all facetious - seriously, there are some neighborhoods in this country which are just unfathomable. And people live there. The schools are war zones, the environment is as depressing and despondent as you could possibly imagine.

People literally get shot in the street every single day. There was a ten year old girl who's eye had to be removed this weekend because she caught a stray bullet walking home from the corner store. It's not the America you know and love. It really isn't. There's nothing about it that encourages any kind of upward mobility. It's hard to explain, but just the atmosphere alone knocks any kind of humanity out of a person. I can't imagine what it is to be born and raised there, and how once you got past age 5 you would ever have any hope of anything at all ever.

Sorry, I just got really affected by some of the scenes I saw yesterday. One of them was a nice looking young man walking with a kindergarten boy in the middle of nothing. It really sucked.

It's not the first time I've seen it either, it was just particularly bleak yesterday.

BTW, I'm sure they would hate this classification of their lives, and I'm sorry about that too. Don't mean to be patronizing, but can't help how I felt about it. There's still pride there, just pride in all the wrong stuff, IMVHO.
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:53 PM
 
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I raised my three youngest sons as a single parent. My now ex-husband walked out on the family when our baby was four months for someone he met on the internet. That "baby" turned eighteen a week and a half ago.

At one point, it became necessary to go on food stamps (for a year). Although it's likely, even with working, that I qualified beyond that, I only received them for a year (by choice).

But I never received any other benefits, working two jobs, and briefly three, at a time.

However, my income was still low enough that my kids qualified for free breakfasts and lunches at school. That was a HUGE help to me. And I was grateful for the help.

And for the record, being raised by a single mom hasn't damaged my three youngest boys too badly - they are all doing awesomely. My youngest graduated with honors on Friday; this morning, he started his first job......with the school district as their "network specialist," a job he applied for and interviewed for and got, beating out six other applicants, two of them with college degrees and actual work experience. He does plan on furthering his education at a later time; in the meantime, this was a huge accomplishment for a kid who just turned eighteen. In fact, the school superintendent came up to him after the graduation ceremony, shook his hand, and said that was the first time he ever watched a staff member graduate high school.

His brothers are also doing well, despite having been raised by a single mom - one of them, at the age of 22, having just bought his first home.
I was raised by a single mom cinebar. It's what you make it, indeed. Mine was married for about 8 months but they were both way too young. I turned out alright, even if I do say so.
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Old 06-17-2013, 03:08 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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I was raised by a single mom cinebar. It's what you make it, indeed. Mine was married for about 8 months but they were both way too young. I turned out alright, even if I do say so.


It can be done, although I'll be the first to admit that my situation, as tough as it was, was not nearly as "bleak" and hopeless as it must be for some women.

I do get tired, though, of some of the blanket statements that imply that all children raised by single moms are "doomed."
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