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We have the same thing about to happen in Toronto- our progressive liberals insist that non-citizens should be allowed to vote in municipal elections...This is to ensure they stay in power with this new block vote...It is very undemocratic and it is the stealing of elections. The liberals in Canada for the last 30 years have been very pro immigration ....and immigrants thought that it was their duty to vote liberal because they owed the liberals for letting them into the country...Muslim immigrants and immigrants from India and China maybe very conservative in their attitude but they think if they do not vote liberal they might suffer retribution.
The progressives know that they will not cut it in an election seeing that most people are conservative...so they are resorting to the perversion of democracy to stay in power...It's bizarre...it is like a family that have a big house and all the members have keys...it's like some bureaucrat getting one of your house keys and making a thousand copies and handing them out to strangers...who in turn will owe the bureaucrat a favor.
I like the supporters of illegals voting, you people are ****ing disgrace. Stop with the, "minorities can't get ID" BS. They need it to get welfare and other services. They will need it for Obamacare. If you told them their was a free check waiting for them and all they needed was a photo ID to get it, they'd have that photo ID in hours.
You said minorties can't get ID. Minorities as well as any other American citizen have ID. A birth certificate and a Social Security Number are valid ID and all that are needed to live life in america.
How does one get an "ID" card... with a birth certificate and a Social Security Number. So If a BC and SSN are sufficient and required to get an ID, why are they not sufficient in registaring to vote?
So take that "Minorites cant get ID BS"...BS down the road.
J. Christian Adams has some commentary at PJMedia
Explaining that the state can use the State registration form that allows 'proof of citizenship' and can still make multiple checks to verify info. The left wanted exclusive use of the federal form, with no proof or checks.
Waiting to see how the Senate reacts to Sen. Cruz's amendment to change the federal app with an amendment to the immigration bill.
Master stroke by ted...clog the immigration bill with wortless legislation that pulls the immigration bill down. ted knows that a bill changing federal law on federal voter requirement would never pass on its own.
We have the same thing about to happen in Toronto- our progressive liberals insist that non-citizens should be allowed to vote in municipal elections...
This isn't really the same issue. The non-citizens you're referring to are legal residents. The issue that Arizona's law (inadequately) was trying to address pertained to illegal immigrants.
My condo association has several permanent and temporary (legal) resident unit owners. I couldn't imagine a rational argument for precluding these dues-paying owners from voting in condo association elections. I also don't see a problem with municipalities or even states changing their laws/constitutions to allow legal residents the right to vote in elections that could affect their taxation. (Remember, "no taxation without representation"?)
That "bull****" you talk about is the US Constitution, in which states are given the right to determine voting eligibility.
For state and local elections, sure. For federal elections... not so much.
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Liberalism = Fascism
There is so much refined political and historical ignorance in that "equation" that one can only pause in wonder at its ability to simultaneously induce both immediate hilarity and deep sadness for the human condition.
But Colorado and Washington did when they made pot legal? See you libs can't have it both ways?!
Perhaps you will have a point after the conflict between state and federal laws runs its course (as the Arizona voter law did). Until then... you are comparing men to mangroves.
Yanno, this is a total outrage, to all those who fought and died for our freedoms....Living in America is a privilege, voting is a priviledge and for Arizona to allow ILLEGAL, which means, against the law, to vote, is absolutely ludicrist and goes against all law abiding citizens.
Then it is a good thing that Arizona does not allow illegals to vote.
We do more checking on people who want to buy a box of bullets than we do on people that go to vote.
Maybe that's the case in Texas. But as for normal parts of the USA, I doubt your assertion is accurate.
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You would think that with all the illegals here in this country we would want to make sure our voting system maintains its integrity.
This belongs on a different discussion forum, not here, IMO.
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Sure hardly any voter fraud is recorded. But is that because we aren't checking ? We seem to wait and see if any fallout happens after elections.
So, the Republicans and Democrats, and Independents are part of a grand conspiracy to allow vote fraud? Really? You're going to allow that assumption to be made when you say "hardly any voter fraud is recorded." Your assertion is contrary to the facts ... reported by Republican and Democratic election officials/judges.
The RWNJs seem to overlook, regarding this issue of the Court's decision regarding Arizona ... that about 80% of the people who were not allowed to register in Arizona ... were "White." Lilly white folks. This has never been about "illegals." But the one-issue extremists don't want to acknowledge that.
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