Supreme Court strikes down Arizona law requiring proof of citizenship to vote (conspiracy, Michigan)

[All American NYC]

Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge

While I agree with you that EVERY instance of voter fraud and voter registration fraud--two different things--are attacks on our system of government and should be pursued and prosecuted, I would also point out that voter fraud is so infrequent in our country that it has a virtually non-existent impact on voting results.

Thats not true. It happens far too often. Last election a woman tried to vote 6 times, than there are illegals voting.

We are also adding them to our census so states with higher illegal alien population get more representation. Thats more fraud.

[NHartphotog]

So we have to trust people who simply SAY they are citizens, instead of requiring proof for voting?

I guess from now on I'll skip the annual inspections required on my cars and my camper, since I can just to SAY they are safe.

[DC at the Ridge]

Originally Posted by All American NYC

It wouldn't matter if they did or didn't. Who is checking?

Obviously, it does matter because in order to vote you have to be registered to vote. When you go to vote, they check the registration records. Or are you claiming that they don't check?

[All American NYC]

Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge

Obviously, it does matter because in order to vote you have to be registered to vote. When you go to vote, they check the registration records. Or are you claiming that they don't check?

Here is an example.

In Colorado, the process identified 4,000 suspect voters (the list has grown to 5,000 this year). In New Mexico, the process yielded no names. But in Florida, the voter rolls contained the names of 180,000 people that weren't citizens

[DC at the Ridge]

Originally Posted by All American NYC

Thats not true. It happens far too often. Last election a woman tried to vote 6 times, than there are illegals voting.

We are also adding them to our census so states with higher illegal alien population get more representation. Thats more fraud.

A woman tried to vote 6 times???!!!!! Oh my god. And how many people voted in that election? Would her six votes have had ANY impact, at all, on the outcome of the election?? The answer is no.

Voter fraud is a problem in that this woman should be vigorously prosecuted because voter fraud goes against the very principles at the heart of our republic. Prosecution of voter fraud when it turns up protects the integrity of our system.

But your belief that widespread fraud already corrupts the integrity of that system is not based on actual facts. The facts are that voting is observed and monitored by the political parties in our country and by impartial observers from international organizations, and there is NO evidence that voter fraud is anything but a rare and isolated occurrence, and that voter fraud has virtually no impact on election outcomes.

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by All American NYC

1 too many.

Which one?

[All American NYC]

Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge

But your belief that widespread fraud already corrupts the integrity of that system is not based on actual facts. The facts are that voting is observed and monitored by the political parties in our country and by impartial observers from international organizations, and there is NO evidence that voter fraud is anything but a rare and isolated occurrence, and that voter fraud has virtually no impact on election outcomes.

It is. Why are we counting illegals anyway in the census? They representation in the Electoral College. There is no honest elections when you have all this corruption.

A woman tried to vote 6 times???!!!!! Oh my god. And how many people voted in that election? Would her six votes have had ANY impact, at all, on the outcome of the election?? The answer is no.

Imagine if all Republicans did that.

Voter fraud is a problem in that this woman should be vigorously prosecuted because voter fraud goes against the very principles at the heart of our republic. Prosecution of voter fraud when it turns up protects the integrity of our system.

Yes they should be prosecuted.

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by All American NYC

I said you agree.

Proving that you didn't understand my response.

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by All American NYC

It wouldn't matter if they did or didn't. Who is checking?

The poll workers. They have the registration rolls right in front of them.

My god... have you actually never voted?

[OICU812]

Originally Posted by Tilt11

Unreal. To not have to prove you belong here to vote is unbelievable to me. Its common friggin sense.

The person still needs to state, under penalty of perjury, that they are an American citizen. Arizona was just taking it a step further and requiring certifiable proof of US citizenship.