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Old 07-08-2013, 11:46 AM
 
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That's strange. I'm around black people quite a bit (a hell of a lot more than you...that's for sure), and i can't remember celebrating anything relating to murder. I mean, yea...we've watched Scarface and Casino a few times, but i can't remember celebrating it.

But maybe you know something i don't. LMAO...
Are you sure you are around black people more than me? lol

I mean, let's exclude family because that doesn't count. Because you might try to claim your Junebug as your 15th cousin.. and other stupid stuff like that. You know how that goes.

Were you listening to Waka Flocka Flame while watching Casino, tho? LOL

Is your Scarface DVD right next to your boxset of The Wire?
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Old 07-08-2013, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Suffolk, Va
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Capoids live in southern Africa.
They look black,but have the eye folds of Asians.
They look as if they have characteristics of the 2 races,Negroid and Asian.
like Khosian people?
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Old 07-08-2013, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Suffolk, Va
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[quote=Chimuelojones;30381281]I dont think any white person should feel any shame to what was done in the past...just as white people should not claim the successes of the past either.[/quote]
yep, they're a package deal.
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Old 07-08-2013, 11:52 AM
 
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Are you sure you are around black people more than me? lol

I mean, let's exclude family because that doesn't count. Because you might try to claim your Junebug as your 15th cousin.. and other stupid stuff like that. You know how that goes.

Were you listening to Waka Flocka Flame while watching Casino, tho? LOL

Is your Scarface DVD right next to your boxset of The Wire?
I'm around more black folks than you when i look in the mirror in the morning. So that's settled.

You're taking liberties with the Junebug thing...but ok...nevermind.

Still though, i'm not around folks that celebrate a culture of murder, and i'm with my people quite a bit.

In fact, i do have the complete boxset of The Wire. I've got EVERY street violence flick in my collection worth watching because that's my thing. Not to mention that i think The Wire is the greatest television show in the history of mankind.

And i don't listen to Waka Flocka....i generally don't like rap from the South.
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Old 07-08-2013, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Suffolk, Va
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I can agree with that..but only under the premise that nobody should celebrate the achievements of their race/ethnicity at all. And that, of course, will never happen.

Or it will when it doesn't matter anymore.
I just don't get it. Maybe you can explain. How can someone make a statement like this without acknowledging the adversity that pretty much everyone in this country had to overcome if they were not a white (Anglo Saxon) male? surely we all realize the accomplishment of men who were white in this country, but women, blacks, Asians, etc. were often not even given basic opportunities to get an education in many cases. you can't see the difference? really?
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Old 07-08-2013, 11:58 AM
 
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I can agree with that..but only under the premise that nobody should celebrate the achievements of their race/ethnicity at all. And that, of course, will never happen.

Or it will when it doesn't matter anymore.
I cant speak to celebrating the achievements of one's race or ethnicity.

I am addressing those white folk that say they should not be held to the actions of the past. To those that claim that, I say yes...dont claim the actions of the past...good or bad.
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Old 07-08-2013, 12:00 PM
 
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I'm around more black folks than you when i look in the mirror in the morning. So that's settled.
That you are, touche.

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You're taking liberties with the Junebug thing...but ok...nevermind.
Slightly

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In fact, i do have the complete boxset of The Wire. I've got EVERY street violence flick in my collection worth watching because that's my thing. Not to mention that i think The Wire is the greatest television show in the history of mankind.
As do I... avid street violence film buff here...




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And i don't listen to Waka Flocka....i generally don't like rap from the South.
Co sign...
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Old 07-08-2013, 12:05 PM
 
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I just don't get it. Maybe you can explain. How can someone make a statement like this without acknowledging the adversity that pretty much everyone in this country had to overcome if they were not a white (Anglo Saxon) male? surely we all realize the accomplishment of men who were white in this country, but women, blacks, Asians, etc. were often not even given basic opportunities to get an education in many cases. you can't see the difference? really?
Half of your argument I agree with... white achievement is glorified in this country. Maybe unjustifiably so. But even if you were to argue hypothetically under the premise that whites and blacks were on equal footing as far as social status and level of education etc. etc.

Blacks were/are still the extreme minority in this country. So naturally, whites would have achieved at a higher clip on the WHOLE. Unless, you are arguing there IS division and specialization along racial lines.

Achievements based on race should not be glorified, at all.

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Old 07-08-2013, 12:07 PM
 
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I cant speak to celebrating the achievements of one's race or ethnicity.

I am addressing those white folk that say they should not be held to the actions of the past. To those that claim that, I say yes...dont claim the actions of the past...good or bad.
So what do you say about those who say they should not be held to the actions of their present?
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Old 07-08-2013, 12:10 PM
 
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So white people should mourn a culture of shame?? is that what you are saying?

All while blacks celebrate a culture of murder?

The logic ship has sailed in this country big time... wow
I think that if you look through our history as a country, it has been the white population who has perpetuated and celebrated the culture of murder.
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