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Old 07-13-2013, 02:14 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Originally Posted by bchris02 View Post
I am pro gay marriage
I am pro cannabis legalization
I am against war unless absolutely necessary
I am pro government handouts but there needs to be more accountability to cut out abuse of the system
I am against the Patriot Act
I am pro Second Amendment
I am pro separation of church and state
I am pro religion, whatever that religion may be, and people should be free to practice it and teach the doctrine they choose, even if some may consider it hate; And they should remain tax exempt. Churches, mosques, and temples of all kinds are symbols of the diversity in our communities
I am against Obamacare
I am against abortion on demand but think there should be exceptions
I support a path to citizenship but am against completely open borders
I don't think Obama has been an outstanding President (I'm sorry I don't) but don't think Bush was great either; I liked Clinton

With most liberals, it seems that you must tow the party line 100% of the time or you are just as evil as those Neanderthalic conservatives that hate gays, women, and minorities and want to turn America into Iran. The polarization in this country is getting so intense its scary.
It's not what you believe that gets you labeled a extreme right winger. It's how you frame your beliefs.

If you're pro-2A b/c you want to be able to defend yourself from intruders & criminals, that's not extreme. If you're pro-2A to be able to fight a guerilla war against the gov't, you're a rightwing nutjob.

If you're against the ACA b/c it's not the most effective way to give all Americans health insurance, that's not extreme.
If you're against the ACA b/c it's socialism & healthcare is a privilege, you're a RWNJ

 
Old 07-13-2013, 02:36 AM
 
Location: west mich
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Originally Posted by Goinback2011 View Post
Leftists are crazy.

They lack the ability to forsee the consequences of their policies, or in some cases, they're so crazy, they desire negative consequences.

They're dangerous predators, as the only way they can win converts is via propagandizing the young, and using their support.
Why are righties so allergic to data - ya think it bites?
Do you know what a "leftist policy" is?
 
Old 07-13-2013, 02:40 AM
 
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Why are righties so allergic to data - ya think it bites?
Do you know what a "leftist policy" is?
Uh huh.

One of the mental problems most frequently exhibited by leftists is projection disorder.

Look it up.
 
Old 07-13-2013, 02:47 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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With most liberals, it seems that you must tow the party line 100% of the time or you are just as evil as those Neanderthalic conservatives that hate gays, women, and minorities and want to turn America into Iran. The polarization in this country is getting so intense its scary.
You reap what you sow. Look in mirror.
With most CONServatives, it seems that you must tow the party line 100% of the time or you are just as evil as those cave man conservatives that entitlements, free Obama phones, hate gays, women, and minorities and want to turn America into a third world country. And still believe Obama wasn't born in Hawaii. The polarization in this country is getting so intense its funny.

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Originally Posted by Goinback2011 View Post
Uh huh.

One of the mental problems most frequently exhibited by leftists is projection disorder.

Look it up.
See what I mean.
 
Old 07-13-2013, 04:50 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Originally Posted by bchris02 View Post
I am pro gay marriage
I am pro cannabis legalization
I am against war unless absolutely necessary
I am pro government handouts but there needs to be more accountability to cut out abuse of the system
I am against the Patriot Act
I am pro Second Amendment
I am pro separation of church and state
I am pro religion, whatever that religion may be, and people should be free to practice it and teach the doctrine they choose, even if some may consider it hate; And they should remain tax exempt. Churches, mosques, and temples of all kinds are symbols of the diversity in our communities
I am against Obamacare
I am against abortion on demand but think there should be exceptions
I support a path to citizenship but am against completely open borders
I don't think Obama has been an outstanding President (I'm sorry I don't) but don't think Bush was great either; I liked Clinton

With most liberals, it seems that you must tow the party line 100% of the time or you are just as evil as those Neanderthalic conservatives that hate gays, women, and minorities and want to turn America into Iran. The polarization in this country is getting so intense its scary.
Your beliefs mirror mine almost exactly, and I am called a libertard almost daily.
 
Old 07-13-2013, 05:01 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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Don't tell me what I am/not, thanks.

I want the government out of that stuff, too... when I said "lean left," I only mean that I don't think stuff like gay marriage, abortion, drugs, etc, should be ILLEGAL or even heavily regulated. Isn't that kind of the opposite of wanting government involvement? Both the Reps and Dems claim to want freedoms, but only seem to apply them to their chosen issues - for example the Dems want the freedom to SSM and drug use but not (always) for guns and cigarettes, whereas the Reps want freedom to own guns and pray in public schools, but not for the other things I listed.

That's why I identify most with libertarian beliefs, because at least they show some consistency in their regulatory desires. I'm not "lock-step" in line with the party, but then again I'm not in line with ANY party in general. Why do people always try to argue with that concept (of political non-partisanship)?
Yeah, libertarians want the government out of marriage. In case you haven't noticed the left has been lobbying government for the past decade to get more involved in marriage. The exact opposite of what libertarians want. And the left does not support the legalization of drugs.

Last edited by nei; 07-13-2013 at 12:42 PM.. Reason: trolling
 
Old 07-13-2013, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Originally Posted by bchris02 View Post
I wouldn't even call some of them liberal. Liberal means pro-freedom, be it on gays, guns, drugs, religion, abortion, whatever. The people that want to ban guns and force everyone to abandon rural/suburban living for cities to combat global warming are leftists, not liberal.
Gee, I have no idea.
 
Old 07-13-2013, 07:58 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Originally Posted by texdav View Post
liberals only see black and white. Your either the comrade or the enemy. That has been clear since Obama was elected with his compiling his enemies list. Now they whine because Republicans would save them with their policy failures in domestic side. After a 800 billion policy mess that ended in just more debt even many democrats are not giving this administration more money to spend on special interest like government workers and teachers salaries calling it shovel ready massive jobs program to keep unemployment under 7%. That is why they are only feeling the effect of recession last year and now. Something was shoveled alright but not jobs for ordinary people.
It's so funny that I say the exact same thing about conservatives. No shades of gray. It's all black and white.

Conservatives tend to see in others traits that they possess themselves.
 
Old 07-13-2013, 08:05 AM
 
Location: California
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Originally Posted by bchris02 View Post
I am pro gay marriage
1. I am pro cannabis legalization
2. I am against war unless absolutely necessary
3. I am pro government handouts but there needs to be more accountability to cut out abuse of the system
4. I am against the Patriot Act
5. I am pro Second Amendment
6. I am pro separation of church and state
7. I am pro religion, whatever that religion may be, and people should be free to practice it and teach the doctrine they choose, even if some may consider it hate; And they should remain tax exempt. Churches, mosques, and temples of all kinds are symbols of the diversity in our communities
8. I am against Obamacare
9. I am against abortion on demand but think there should be exceptions
10. I support a path to citizenship but am against completely open borders
11. I don't think Obama has been an outstanding President (I'm sorry I don't) but don't think Bush was great either; I liked Clinton

With most liberals, it seems that you must tow the party line 100% of the time or you are just as evil as those Neanderthalic conservatives that hate gays, women, and minorities and want to turn America into Iran. The polarization in this country is getting so intense its scary.
Moderate with some conservative beliefs? You're definitely left of center, you just don't like Obama. It's an odd position to be in. I know people with conservatives beliefs but they hate Republicans (Romney, Santorum, McCain, Palin, Bush) so they don't identify with the party at all. I numbered your positions and labeled them:

1. Liberal
2. Liberal
3. Moderate
4. Liberal
5. Need more information (with regulations, without regulations?)
6/7. Liberal
8. Conservative
9. Moderate
10. Liberal to Moderate
11. Moderate
 
Old 07-13-2013, 08:09 AM
 
Location: California
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Originally Posted by Goinback2011 View Post
Leftists are crazy.

They lack the ability to forsee the consequences of their policies, or in some cases, they're so crazy, they desire negative consequences.

They're dangerous predators, as the only way they can win converts is via propagandizing the young, and using their support.
It's funny what people are willing to say on the internet. I debate conservatives sometimes out in the real world (at work, social functions, etc.) and I never hear anyone speak like this. Once they get behind a keyboard though, the psychotic hate starts flowing. Do conservatives not like face-to-face confrontations?
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