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Old 07-25-2013, 02:36 PM
 
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Maybe it's just a North American trend with nothing whatsoever to do with guns?

Canada's crime rate lowest since 1972 - News - MSN CA
Nothing to do with guns?

That's interesting.

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I think it is because so many millennials were raised by their mothers. Mothers will raise their children to less violent. Fathers imbue their sons with aggression and territorial insecurities.
Yeah, because statistically, children of single mothers are much less likely to be violent and commit crimes.

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Old 07-25-2013, 02:40 PM
 
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Its probably because guns isn't that really a big deal and liberals overblown the idea that it was for their own agenda... gosh, that has never happened before...
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Old 07-25-2013, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I'm sure the gun grabbers are going to throw all kinds of statistics to shred this, and if that fails accuse every firearms enthusiast that we just don't care about all those murdered children.

Youth murder rates at 30-year low, CDC reports - NBC News.com

Some more good reading:
Obama orders CDC gun violence study, study shreds his position

Study: Despite drop in gun crime, 56% think it's worse


It's amazing , more and more people are now legally carrying and there isn't a shoot out in the street everyday , or peope accidently shooting themselves left and right or just plain mass chaos. Don't believe the hype sheeple, a firearm is just a tool.
Looks like Clinton halved the gun crime rate.
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Old 07-25-2013, 02:53 PM
 
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I'm sure the gun grabbers are going to throw all kinds of statistics to shred this, and if that fails accuse every firearms enthusiast that we just don't care about all those murdered children.

Youth murder rates at 30-year low, CDC reports - NBC News.com

Some more good reading:
Obama orders CDC gun violence study, study shreds his position

Study: Despite drop in gun crime, 56% think it's worse


It's amazing , more and more people are now legally carrying and there isn't a shoot out in the street everyday , or peope accidently shooting themselves left and right or just plain mass chaos. Don't believe the hype sheeple, a firearm is just a tool.
This makes the gun violence in Chicago all the more serious. So why does Obama fail to make an issue of the killings going on in Chicago, and why the media ignores it also? Was there no political gain to be found with dozens of dead children in Chicago?

Nothing much to see here folks, move along;

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Old 07-25-2013, 03:03 PM
 
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This makes the gun violence in Chicago all the more serious. So why does Obama fail to make an issue of the killings going on in Chicago, and why the media ignores it also? Was there no political gain to be found with dozens of dead children in Chicago?

Nothing much to see here folks, move along;

obama chicago violence Google Search
What exactly would you like Obama to do about the violence in Chicago? Because absolutely no solution he could possibly propose would be acceptable to you. No matter what happened, you'd still call him a failure. Also, he doesn't run Chicago.

Did you know that Chicago homicides are down from 2012? Did you know that Rahm Emanuel has put a lot more police on the street in response to the violence, and that it has improved as a result? Did you know that gun violence in Chicago, and across the country, is way down since its peak in 1991?

Also, if I search google for "republicans are stupid morons," I get like 3.8 million links. Nothing to see here?

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Old 07-25-2013, 03:06 PM
 
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Did you know that Chicago homicides are down from 2012? Did you know that Rahm Emanuel has put a lot more police on the street in response to the violence, and that it has improved as a result? Did you know that gun violence in Chicago, and across the country, is way down since its peak in 1991?
Crime in Chicago has been going down for 20 years, despite what you hear in news.

It's down from 2012, but 2012 was a spike (warm year), so that doesn't really count. It's virtually equal to 2011.

The point is that the left's incessant cries of blood in the streets over 30 years worth of expansion of gun rights has been total BS.
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:13 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Gun related crime among youths at a 30 year low.. now that can't be !!


Could this have something to do with it?

Naw.

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Old 07-25-2013, 03:22 PM
 
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Gun related crime among youths at a 30 year low.. now that can't be !!


Could this have something to do with it?

Naw.
Yes, that must be the reason. Easier access to guns. That must be the reason gun crimes are down overall. There couldn't possibly be any other factor or combination of factors. Just out of curiosity, did you know that some people have the theory that since abortion was legalized in 1973, crime is down because the very people who would now be at crime-committing age and circumstance were aborted? It's just something to consider.

One thing I've learned about conservatives, and it's only that much louder here, is that they draw such easy conclusions and make such tenuous connections using only specious reasoning. They see one thing happen and immediately grope for causation with the first possible thing that comes to mind. They also see most every issue in terms of black and white. There is never even the shallowest layer of complexity to anything.

"This is just the way it is, dammit, and we likes it that way!"
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:25 PM
 
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One thing I've learned about conservatives, and it's only that much louder here, is that they draw such easy conclusions and make such tenuous connections using only specious reasoning. They see one thing happen and immediately grope for causation with the first possible thing that comes to mind. They also see most every issue in terms of black and white. There is never even the shallowest layer of complexity to anything.
Are you blind or just dishonest as hell? This is hardly a conservative thing. Seriously? And you bring this up with the gun debate, the debate where liberals have made a point of abandoning all analysis to consider such horrible arguments as "look at Europe" and "the south is more violent because of gun laws".

That's funny.
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:28 PM
 
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Are you blind or just dishonest as hell? This is hardly a conservative thing. Seriously? And you bring this up with the gun debate, the debate where liberals have made a point of abandoning all analysis to consider such horrible arguments as "look at Europe" and "the south is more violent because of gun laws".

That's funny.
I don't know who said the south is more violent because of gun laws. I see more gun violence in areas of poverty, wherever that happens to be.
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