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Old 08-08-2013, 08:20 AM
 
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They're members of Congress. Members of Congress speak about Bills frequently. How do you not know that?
You seem to be arguing that speaking and lying are exclusive of one another. I would point out that lying requires a person to speak. In this case, GOP Representatives are speaking about doing something, but they have no intention of actually doing anything. That would be lying. How do you not know that?

 
Old 08-08-2013, 08:27 AM
 
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The only thing you have ever firmly established is that you are, yourself, an inveterate liar in the name of political expediency.
Unfortunately for you, not true.

It is indeed a fact that Hillary Clinton and Susan Rice LIED about the YouTube video causing the attack on Benghazi.

It is indeed a fact that a GOP Rep supports a Bill to investigate Obama's birth certificate. The audio is in the fist post of this thread.
 
Old 08-08-2013, 08:28 AM
 
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You seem to be arguing that speaking and lying are exclusive of one another.
They're not. However, we know for a fact that this thread's title is NOT a lie. The audio is in the first post in this thread.
 
Old 08-08-2013, 08:35 AM
 
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Granholm was the Governor of Michigan. Governors are not Constitutionally required to be natural born citizens.
Neither are Senators, but I was responding to the point that the birthers would be after Ted Cruz if he was a Democrat.
 
Old 08-08-2013, 08:41 AM
 
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They're not. However, we know for a fact that this thread's title is NOT a lie. The audio is in the first post in this thread.
I hope so much that Yoho and Stockman do introduce a bill of some kind. Not only would the entertainment value be enormous, it would make the TP Conservatives in the House look even more idiotic than they already do, and that's saying something. But alas, most Republicans are just not that stupid. Even they know the birther issue is both a bogus waste of time and a real loser issue for them. Too bad, it would have been fun to watch.
 
Old 08-08-2013, 08:41 AM
 
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They're not. However, we know for a fact that this thread's title is NOT a lie. The audio is in the first post in this thread.
The audio only proves that the GOP Rep is speaking about a birther issue, in effect kowtowing to the birther perspective. It does NOT prove that the GOP Rep is speaking honestly. And since this is not the first GOP Rep who has spoken about furthering the birther agenda, there seems to be a pattern developing. Speak about it, but do nothing. Empty promises. Lies.
 
Old 08-08-2013, 08:53 AM
 
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The audio only proves that the GOP Rep is speaking about a birther issue
Exactly. Hence, the thread title: GOP Rep Supports Passing A Bill To Investigate Obama's Birth Certificate

No lie.
 
Old 08-08-2013, 09:46 AM
 
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It is indeed a fact that Hillary Clinton and Susan Rice LIED about the YouTube video causing the attack on Benghazi.
And once again, the irony is delicious. You prove that you do not understand the point you're trying to make with DC... the difference between speaking and lying.

It is fact that they did not lie. That's among the primary reason your whole Benghazi witch-hunt fizzled on the launch pad.

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It is indeed a fact that a GOP Rep supports a Bill to investigate Obama's birth certificate. The audio is in the fist post of this thread.
Lol... and we are praying that he and Stockman follow through. Nothing helps the Republicans implode any faster than this remarkable death wish they have for their own political credibility.
 
Old 08-08-2013, 09:56 AM
 
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Exactly. Hence, the thread title: GOP Rep Supports Passing A Bill To Investigate Obama's Birth Certificate

No lie.
Because he couldn't be lying about his support? For political expediency? To pander to his audience?
 
Old 08-08-2013, 09:58 AM
 
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Default Supporting Stockman Bill to Investigate Phony Birth Certificate

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CDR Kerchner (Ret)'s Blog | Natural Born Citizen: Kerchner et al vs Obama and Congress et al Lawsuit

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August 2013

Congressman Steve Stockman

420 Green Avenue

Orange, TX 77630

Dear Congressman Stockman:

I strongly support you to introduce a Bill in Congress demanding a Congressional Investigation into Obama’s ID documents which includes (1) his forged long form birth certificate proffered to the electorate on 27 April 2011, (2) his forged short form birth certification form proffered to the electorate in mid-June 2008, (3) his forged and back dated to 1980 draft registration card nefariously inserted into the Selective Service System (SSS) via someone in the Chicago IL SSS office in late 2007 or early 2008, and (4) his use since circa 1986 of an SSN of a deceased person who was born in 1890 and which said SSN was originally issued to someone who lived in Connecticut in the month of March 1977 … at a time when Obama was 16 years old and still living in HI and his father had long before that time returned to Kenya.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Arizona, the Sheriff of a very large county therein, and his Cold Case Posse headed by Chief Investigator Mike Zullo have conclusively, 100% proven with two years of research and evidence gathering and 1200 tests that the Obama long form birth certificate and draft registration card are forgeries. Creating these documents is a felony federal crime and posting a forged document on government servers at the White House is another federal crime. Obama has proffered this document as his and even sanctioned the use it by his campaign on coffee mugs, campaign buttons, and other paraphernalia to raise money during the 2012 election cycle. He thus established a nexus for his ID crime to every state in the country. The number of crimes committed involving creating Obama’s forged and stolen ID documents will be quite a list.

There is no greater national security threat to our nation and Constitutional Republic than having a person in the office of the Presidency and Commander in Chief of our military who is of unknown true legal identity who is engaging in crimes to cover up his true legal identity by proffering forged and stolen ID docs.

As a retired Commander from the U.S. Navy it causes me great angst for the men and women in the military today who have to serve under this person, Obama.

The Cold Case Posse now has a 40 page report and sworn affidavit from a court certified document examiner from Hawaii stating what numerous other digital image experts have been saying since 27 April 2011, i.e., that the Obama long form birth certificate uploaded to and displayed on the White House servers that day in 2011 is a manufactured "cut and pasted" digital image PDF file created in a program such as Adobe Illustrator that never existed in paper form as it appears, nor was it a scanned in image of any paper document provided to Obama’s lawyers from Hawaii. It is a 100% man-made, fabricated forgery and that any paper copies of said image shown in press conferences are simply printouts
made from the forged PDF on to official looking green security paper easily obtained from places like Staples and upon which some forged raised seal has been embossed to make it look official to the unknowing public and electorate watching a press conference on TV.

Hawaiian Health Department authorities have never attested under oath or otherwise that the image on the WhiteHouse.gov website is a 100% true and correct copy of what they have in their files. Nor will they tell us what is the type of original registration of the alleged birth they have in their files that was created in 1961, nor who submitted any records they have and when, and whether any 1961 records if they exist have been amended due to adoptions or later retroactive input decades later from the person himself. Said later personal amendments are permitted under Hawaii’s very lax birth certificate laws. However, an amendment at any time, if it occurred, must be indicated on any birth certificate provided by Hawaii. The online image has no mention of any later amendment and instead is being offered as exactly what was prepared in 1961 by the alleged, but not verified by the hospital, hospital birth. Obama may be hiding that he was not really [born] in a hospital as he claims with no real concrete
party evidence he was even born in HI but was simply registered as born there by his family, simply to gain basic but treasured U.S. Citizenship for their new grandson. Said registration of a falsified attestation of birth in HI was easy back in 1961 and would have triggered the much touted two newspaper ad listings. The registration data from 1961 may show it was made using whatever was submitted by his family members or others in 1961 with whatever weak 3 party supporting evidence, if there is any, and probably that his birth record has been amended multiple times to accommodate his changing life narrative and thus the need to forge the 27 April 2011 online image.

Obama is using the Cloward-Piven Strategy to wreck our economy and way of life. His incompetence is [nothing] but a planned destruction of our economic system and form of government. He is following per his book the "Dreams from His Father" who was a Marxist who despised the USA and wanted to see our nation humbled and brought down.

Please press forward with your introduction of a Bill to investigate these issues. And be prepared for an onslaught of personal attacks and ridicule attacks right out of Saul Alinsky’s book, Rules for Radicals, which Obama taught course in while a Community Organizer aka Agitator. That is all they have – name calling and ridicule. The truth, facts, and evidence are on our side. To help deal with such onslaughts, if you get invited onto a TV show to discuss your proposed Bill, please insist that Chief Investigator Mike Zullo appear with you, side by side, so that he can clearly defeat any attacks on the credibility of the factual evidence proving that Obama’s ID documents are either forged or stolen.

Please stand up for your oath to support and defend the Constitution and bring forward the Bill to expose the fraud and criminal in the White House.

Sincerely,

Charles F. Kerchner, Jr.
CDR USNR Retired

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