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What "political expediency" did a Republican governor of Hawaii have that would cause her to lie about seeing the original birth records of the president?
Who knows? You HAVE heard about the NSA's extremely invasive data gathering operations, no? Could be anything.
What reason did Hillary Clinton and Susan Rice have to lie about the YouTube video causing the Benghazi attack? If they truly didn't know the cause (doubtful because so many have come forward stating that there was no protest there that night, and we know government officials were watching it live), why didn't they just say it was under investigation and that everything would be done to ascertain the responsible parties? Floating a clearly ludicrous YouTube video lie was remarkably idiotic, even for them.
According to every legal authority who has ever commented on the issue, you are wrong on both those counts.
False.
Secretary of State Frederick Frelinghuysen determined Ludwig Hausding, though born in the U.S., was not born a U.S. citizen because he was subject to a foreign power at birth having been born to a Saxon subject alien father.
Similarly, Secretary of State Thomas Bayard determined Richard Greisser, though born in Ohio, was not born a U.S. citizen because Greisser's father, too, was an alien, a German subject at the time of Greisser's birth. Bayard specifically stated that Greisser was at birth 'subject to a foreign power,' therefore not "subject to the jurisdiction of the United States" within the meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment. Digest of the International Law of the United States
The alien fathers of both were NOT permanently domiciled in the U.S. Their U.S.-born sons were determined to NOT be U.S. citizens.
exactly what part of that letter do you feel is "garbage"?
Here is thee first mistruth about the Hawaii certification. It is not valid.
Your misleadinding readers. Onaka never confirmed the image posted on the WH server in April, 2011. He never signed it. He never stated Obama's date of birth.
Here is a correspondence you, Wrecking ball, are certainly familar with, but others, unaware, are the reason you and other Obots sit here 24/7 trying to defend felonies that are never going to go away.
Not enough info has been released to make that determination.
Wrong. His life narrative is the most intensely examined and parsed of any modern President. Claims otherwise are birther fabrications.
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For example, which country's passport did Obama use to return by himself from Indonesia? He had been removed from his mother's passport prior to that so he had to have one of his own.
Doesn't matter. That would have no effect on his natural born US citizen.
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Another example, Governor Abercrombie calls Obama "Barry." When did Obama legally change his name from Barry Soetoro (Indonesian school registration) to Barack Obama?
His name was never legally changed from Obama. That said, it doesn't matter. That would have no effect on his natural born US citizenship.
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Why was Obama listed as the parties' child in the Soetoro divorce documents? He should have been listed as his mother's child from a previous marriage. Was he adopted by Soetoro? That would have generated a new birth certificate including a name change.
In the order aksed. Because he was Ann's son. There is no reason to list him as her son from a previous marriage. No he was not adopted (not that it matters since it wouldn't effect his natural born US citizenship). And if you have this other imaginary birth certificate, please. Show us. We're all on tenterhooks to see it.
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There are countless other inconsistencies that have not been satisfactorily answered, the odd Selective Service registration that doesn't look like anyone else's, his Connecticut SS number, the fact that he mentions in his book that his mother couldn't prove that Obama Sr was his father when the lawyers were settling Obama Sr's estate. The doubt-inducing peculiarities just go on and on...
None of those are inconsistencies. Most are not even rational speculations. Many are birther hallucinations. His Selective Service registration looks just like everybody else's and has been declared authentic by the SSS. Social Security numbers have never been assigned based on where you lived or where you were born. And who cares what proof of anything his mother may or may not have had when his estranged father died?
Not that it matters. None of this has any effect on his natural born US citizenship.
That depends entirely on how fast you edit it. Not all edited posts will show that.
You edited the post after I had responded to the original. That alone was almost forgivable, since the original post was so stupid you couldn't have possible helped yourself.
But then you lied about it, claiming it has not been edited.
Then you compounded your lie with a second, accusing me of having edited it in my post.
And too bad for you, other posters watched the egregious display of dishonesty and lack of integrity in real time.
I don't know who you think you're fooling here, IC. We saw what you are made of first hand. And it's pretty discouraging.
Who knows? You HAVE heard about the NSA's extremely invasive data gathering operations, no? Could be anything.
So you admit that you can't even come up with a good guess.
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What reason did Hillary Clinton and Susan Rice have to lie about the YouTube video causing the Benghazi attack?
They didn't lie. The reason they were wrong was because the CIA's best information at the time wasn't all that good.
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If they truly didn't know the cause (doubtful because so many have come forward stating that there was no protest there that night, and we know government officials were watching it live), why didn't they just say it was under investigation and that everything would be done to ascertain the responsible parties?
They did say that. They also floated some initial assessments from the CIA.
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Floating a clearly ludicrous YouTube video lie was remarkably idiotic, even for them.
Oh? "Clearly ludicrous" you say? Are you claiming that no protests took place anywhere in the Muslim world at US Embassies because of that video?
Secretary of State Frederick Frelinghuysen determined Ludwig Hausding, though born in the U.S., was not born a U.S. citizen because he was subject to a foreign power at birth having been born to a Saxon subject alien father.
That was before the Supreme Court in the WKA case established that he was wrong. The State Department has never made the same error since.
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Similarly, Secretary of State Thomas Bayard determined Richard Greisser, though born in Ohio, was not born a U.S. citizen because Greisser's father, too, was an alien, a German subject at the time of Greisser's birth.
That was before the Supreme Court in the WKA case established that he was wrong. The State Department has never made the same error since.
The Supreme Court has spoken. 23 subsequent courts have spoken. Even the opposing attorney and dissenting justice in WKA have spoken.
No, but that was a post I edited. It specifically states such at the bottom.
Adding now a third lie to this thread? Lies are like potato chips to you, aren't they? You just can't get enough.
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